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Old 10-08-2015, 03:31 PM
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Location: Surrey/London
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Seattle is rather locked, from what I've seen. In the wintertime, maritime air means clouds and drizzle though not drizzling all the time — rain comes and goes.
The past 2 Januarys here had average sunshine. Jan 2014 was the wettest on record, with 2015 being slightly wetter than normal. Most days have a few hours of sun, and long stretches of overcast are not common (though the last week of Jan 2015 was very cloudy even by our standards). Very different to the PNW.

Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de London (UK)

Meteociel - Climatologie mensuelle de London (UK)

 
Old 10-08-2015, 06:38 PM
 
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No, it does not live up to the supposed stereotype.

I think the bad rap is because the British themselves have overhyped the climate as rainy and cloudy. Most people that visit are pleasantly surprised.

Florida does the opposite. It hypes up its own climate (the media there and the tourist industry) to have everyone believe it is wonderfully warm in winter. Woe the unsuspecting visitor that arrives during an arctic outbreak. They return home very disappointed and some I have known have vowed to stick to the Carib in winter for certain warmth.

And you consider an arctic outbreak the problem with Florida's weather and not the insane disgusting day after day sauna for 6 months a year?
 
Old 10-08-2015, 07:15 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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No one likes cold, overcast useless 5 C drizzle paired with endless days of cloudy skies and low daylight hours. Forget about us heat lovers; cold lovers want their snow fix and sunny, crisp winter days.
Speak for yourself.
 
Old 10-08-2015, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Key Biscayne, FL
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Au contraire. Florida most definitely gets arctic air, sometimes even Cuba. Of course it is modified by then. Check out Jan of 2010. Remind me why all the iguanas were falling out of the trees?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EFUxzGqQE0

Jan 1985 Miami avg high 72F avg low 51F. Three days in a row didn't break 64F, with one day having a high temp of 53F and a low of 30F at Miami. Much colder in other parts of the state. Dead coconut palm trees in Fort Pierce, Vero Beach, Cocoa Beach, etc.

How bout Dec of 1989

Miami avg high 74F avg low 55F.

Tell me this three day stretch isn't air directly from the Arctic sitting down at 35N latitude at sea level:

Dec 23rd high/low 63/37F

Dec 24th 45/31

Christmas Day 55/30F


Jan 1977 was another good one down there:

monthly avg high/low of 70.5/51.7F

Jan 17th thru the 26th


jan 17th 58/44F
18th 57/38F
19th 52/36F
20th 59/31F
21st 62/40F
22nd 63/39F
23rd 65/45F


Now imagine you are a tourist seeking some warm summery weather. I don't think 59/31F cuts it.

In fact, Miami airport averages 2 days per year where the high temp does not exceed 60F. And six days per year with a temp of 65F or lower. Those 60F or 50F temps are from arctic air making its way to FL. And 6 days of temps in the 60's or 50's is not summer like. And this is Miami. Orlando, forget about it. Orlando averages 10 days per year with a high temp in the 50'sF. In 2010 Orlando had 33 days with a high temp of 60F or below.
How about Key Biscayne, FL Jan 3-12 2010

Jan 3: 48/64
Jan 4: 43/60
Jan 5: 43/57
Jan 6: 39/56
Jan 7: 42/61
Jan 8: 48/70
Jan 9: 37/61
Jan 10: 33/47
Jan 11: 35/60
Jan 12: 43/62


Nice

Oh, we're at 25N by the way.
 
Old 10-08-2015, 11:25 PM
 
Location: Top of the South, NZ
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I would certainly say so?

Depends on where you're used to I suppose, but apart from Britain the climate I'm most familiar with is central Europe (eastern Germany/Poland), and the weather seemed to get "locked" into a certain pattern more readily - if you wake up to sunny or overcast skies you can generally be more confident that it will stay that way all day and be the same the next day than you can here.

Take a look at my forecast - not much sun, just ~3 hours or so a day, but spread all over the day, every day for the next week, i.e. lots of short, sunny spells. Doesn't this seem like a pattern you'd get somewhere like southern NZ?

weather Skipton 8 days: Rain risk - Wind - UV index - Sunshine hours

Re. sunless winter days, last December I counted the days with no sunshine at all as far as I could tell and we got to 10, so 21 days with some sunshine. I was expecting about 15 sunless days, but it was the sunniest December on record (54 hours). I'll try and remember to do the same this year.
Invercargill is a bit like that - cloudless days seem reasonably common, as do sunless days, but most days a mixture. Either way, it was never enough.

My climate is one where cloud builds up during the day, rather than comes and goes. If it rains, it's usually in bands with partial/total clearances between. It doesn't seem that variable though. I know plenty of Germans here, and they talk about weather here being stable compared to there.

Don't really trust weatheronline for sunshine, but i'll see how accurate it is for the next week.

weather Motueka 8 days: Rain risk - Wind - UV index - Sunshine hours

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London doesn't get a sea breeze, it's too far inland.
Even the most inland places get a sea breeze here. Does the high pressure there, stop convection?
 
Old 10-09-2015, 06:20 AM
 
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All you need do is watch the news - when it hits 25c there's shots of pasty white limbs splashing about in city fountains - to know that UK climate sucks beyond measure.

Still, it caused them to travel and create an Empire, so there's a flip side.
They traveled to Canada for the sunshine?
 
Old 10-09-2015, 06:40 AM
 
Location: York
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They traveled to Canada for the sunshine?
Probably not, but Canada still gets much more sunshine than the UK.
 
Old 10-09-2015, 07:26 AM
 
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Probably not, but Canada still gets much more sunshine than the UK.
What good is sunshine when the temperatures are sub-zero? Yes I know that the summers are wonderful, but they are short. I don't think a 17th century Englishman would have found Canada to his liking, they had enough difficulty dealing with Virginian winters, with their vicious cold-waves.
 
Old 10-09-2015, 07:59 AM
 
Location: York
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What good is sunshine when the temperatures are sub-zero? Yes I know that the summers are wonderful, but they are short. I don't think a 17th century Englishman would have found Canada to his liking, they had enough difficulty dealing with Virginian winters, with their vicious cold-waves.
I work with a guy who spends every February at his friends in Toronto, and he is adamant that a sub zero sunny day there, feels nicer than a damp and miserable typical day here.
Obviously there are times when the cold there is a bit much though. And the fact remains that Toronto is significantly colder than here, but maybe does feel like there's such a difference.
 
Old 10-09-2015, 08:07 AM
 
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I work with a guy who spends every February at his friends in Toronto, and he is adamant that a sub zero sunny day there, feels nicer than a damp and miserable typical day here.
Obviously there are times when the cold there is a bit much though. And the fact remains that Toronto is significantly colder than here, but maybe does feel like there's such a difference.
I don't think a bit of sunshine would do anything to compensate me for the fact that I'm shivering and my hands are about to fall off. I've never liked the cold with sunshine combination. Somebody else started a thread on here recently, he, like me, hates in-betweens. If it's warm there should be no cloud, if it's cold it should be cloudy and dark. I like weather that makes its mind up and reflects the season it's in
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