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yeah ,in southern states (despite the occasional chill ) the chance of warm sunny days aren't far away - whereas in Australia and Spain they can completely disappear off the radar for days .
Not only that ,but i assume when there is warning of freak cold conditions in Corpus Christi etc then you can get out there and do whatever it takes to protect the roots overnight .
Those outside heaters you get in pubs would probably come in handy too
yeah ,in southern states (despite the occasional chill ) the chance of warm sunny days aren't far away - whereas in Australia and Spain they can completely disappear off the radar for days .
Not only that ,but i assume when there is warning of freak cold conditions in Corpus Christi etc then you can get out there and do whatever it takes to protect the roots overnight .
Those outside heaters you get in pubs would probably come in handy too
Coco palms unless very small are too big to protect. They have been killed in northern parts of Florida peninsula before from cold. I don't think people try to protect them. I doubt you can protect the roots without a buried root heating system. I doubt any large ones are protected at all down there.
I don't think anyone in the southeast bothers with protection for palm trees to be honest, because after going there in spring after a really bad winter, I saw many fried palm trees. Visiting a couple years later almost all had fully recovered. It is not every winter they get really bad out of zone cold. In fact many folks from Mobile, AL told me 2014 was the coldest winter in at least 20 years there.
If every winter got that kind of cold you wouldn't see cidp's or washingtonia down there at all in the Southeast.
the Cidp's that exist in southern England one year had blankets around them (Torquay) - i think the temperature got down to -5 (25) something mental like that for a couple of nights .
These must have been civic / council owned , so they had a duty to protect them . Wild growing palms are left to their own fate .
yeah ,in southern states (despite the occasional chill ) the chance of warm sunny days aren't far away - whereas in Australia and Spain they can completely disappear off the radar for days .
Not only that ,but i assume when there is warning of freak cold conditions in Corpus Christi etc then you can get out there and do whatever it takes to protect the roots overnight .
Those outside heaters you get in pubs would probably come in handy too
that's true
also as tom said, even being 10a zones (compared to Sydney or Almería's bordering 10b/11a) they don't have the possibility which south Texas or mid Florida have...
Those zones can get easily +25-26ºC days even in the middle of January, just look at Brownsville this year: completely tropical winter, for all of the 3 winter months. Unthinkable in southern Spain or Australia.
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I've never seen blankets around any of the CIDPs in gardens here.
I wonder how you appear that fast when someone mentiones the palm trees / cool temps in England.
If Raoul Island can't grow a coconut, then there is little hope for Sydney or Forster. Although there has been a suggestion that coconut palms on Raoul Island don't die from natural causes
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Originally Posted by TorshavnSunHolidays
the Cidp's that exist in southern England one year had blankets around them (Torquay) - i think the temperature got down to -5 (25) something mental like that for a couple of nights .
These must have been civic / council owned , so they had a duty to protect them . Wild growing palms are left to their own fate .
-5C is nothing to a CIDP, it was either colder, or someone was in panic mode
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Originally Posted by Junter
that's true
also as tom said, even being 10a zones (compared to Sydney or Almería's bordering 10b/11a) they don't have the possibility which south Texas or mid Florida have...
Those zones can get easily +25-26ºC days even in the middle of January, just look at Brownsville this year: completely tropical winter, for all of the 3 winter months. Unthinkable in southern Spain or Australia.
Not comparable though - places in Australia with Brownsville winter averages, won't see killing frosts for palms.
If Raoul Island can't grow a coconut, then there is little hope for Sydney or Forster. Although there has been a suggestion that coconut palms on Raoul Island don't die from natural causes.
Almost akin temperatures to Madeira... i'm sure that Raoul can.
Maybe you won't expect them growing big in few years and fruiting large mature fruits but still those temps are enough for a healthy coconut.
If Raoul Island can't grow a coconut, then there is little hope for Sydney or Forster. Although there has been a suggestion that coconut palms on Raoul Island don't die from natural causes
-5C is nothing to a CIDP, it was either colder, or someone was in panic mode
Not comparable though - places in Australia with Brownsville winter averages, won't see killing frosts for palms.
apparantly it was either 1978 or 1987 (or even both) so i have been told , so more than a few years ago - the temp went down to somewhere around -5c to -7c .
Coldest there ever was in 1940 and 1947 according to wiki and that was -9c and that wiped out a good few Cidp's the Victorians planted ... so not a new thing ,so
that kind of cold can kill them off evidently - unless they are a stronger strain these days .
the Cidp's that exist in southern England one year had blankets around them (Torquay) - i think the temperature got down to -5 (25) something mental like that for a couple of nights .
These must have been civic / council owned , so they had a duty to protect them . Wild growing palms are left to their own fate .
Maybe with young or newly planted ones, but as they get bigger it's impossible to protect them anyway...
The ones in Southsea had their fronds tied up for their first couple of winters & that was all (& probably overkill anyway, the once in my back garden has never been protected). As they get bigger they can take more cold anyway...The lowest temperatures the ones in Southsea have seen in their lifetime is around -4C/-5C, larger CIDP's can take down to -8C in the UK climate.
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