General Chat Thread 3 (climate, hot, rainfall, days)

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So basically what Joe90 prefers is a downtown that's a giant shopping mall. I am thankful that isn't the case here.

[Warszawa]

Originally Posted by dunno what to put here

So basically what Joe90 prefers is a downtown that's a giant shopping mall. I am thankful that isn't the case here.

Sounds like 90% of Americans. To them the Downtown is Walmart surrounded by parking lots and crappy chain restaurants

I prefer Downtowns like that of New York or Boston or Lima

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by dunno what to put here

So basically what Joe90 prefers is a downtown that's a giant shopping mall. I am thankful that isn't the case here.

Nope, just covered sidewalks. No stoic shoppers here.

Seems pretty common sense to me. Your streets must be empty on rainy days.

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by Warszawa

Sounds like 90% of Americans. To them the Downtown is Walmart surrounded by parking lots and crappy chain restaurants

I prefer Downtowns like that of New York or Boston or Lima

I think you've gained the wrong impression. I'm just talking about streets in town, nothing to do with malls at all.

When I photos of streets without covered sidewalks, they just seem soulless, depressing places that aren't people friendly.

[Warszawa]

Originally Posted by Joe90

I think you've gained the wrong impression. I'm just talking about streets in town, nothing to do with malls at all.

When I photos of streets without covered sidewalks, they just seem soulless, depressing places that aren't people friendly.

I think unless you live in an awful climate like Upstate NY or Liverpool then covered sidewalks are not necessary. Even in NYC which is not the best climate I think that would be absolutely unneccesary and ruin the amazing skyline view of New York

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by Warszawa

I think unless you live in an awful climate like Upstate NY or Liverpool then covered sidewalks are not necessary. Even in NYC which is not the best climate I think that would be absolutely unneccesary and ruin the amazing skyline view of New York

I think places like Liverpool and NW Europe in general, don't have covered sidewalks because they have a climate that doesn't suit them. Covered sidewalks, are more a sign of a reasonable outdoors climate, not a bad outdoor climate.

[dunno what to put here]

Originally Posted by Joe90

I think you've gained the wrong impression. I'm just talking about streets in town, nothing to do with malls at all.

When I photos of streets without covered sidewalks, they just seem soulless, depressing places that aren't people friendly.

So you think Las Ramblas and Champs Elysees are soulless and depressing places? They should take urban planning advice from New Zealand, a place that certainly isn't renowned for its beautiful built environment?

Yeah, no, I don't think so. New World cities are almost always ugly.

[alex985]

I don't get the pickiness behind it. I don't think somewhere looks better because of covered sidewalks lol and rain, unless it's absolutely pouring, doesn't affect me much either. I don't even bother with an umbrella the grand majority of the time. The sun can be annoying, nothing a good pair of shades can't help.

[Joe90]

Originally Posted by alex985

I don't get the pickiness behind it. I don't think somewhere looks better because of covered sidewalks lol and rain, unless it's absolutely pouring, doesn't affect me much either. I don't even bother with an umbrella the grand majority of the time. The sun can be annoying, nothing a good pair of shades can't help.

To me it's not about aesthetics, but practicality. Why get wet, or hot when you don't need to

Originally Posted by dunno what to put here

So you think Las Ramblas and Champs Elysees are soulless and depressing places? They should take urban planning advice from New Zealand, a place that certainly isn't renowned for its beautiful built environment?

Yeah, no, I don't think so. New World cities are almost always ugly.

They would be when the the streets are wet and empty. A wet day here seems a good excuse to have a coffee on the footpath -catch up with others of my ilk.

I don't really get into old world/new world beautiful/ugly city stuff, but overseas visitors have told me that downtown Nelson is attractive.

[dunno what to put here]

Originally Posted by Joe90

To me it's not about aesthetics, but practicality. Why get wet, or hot when you don't need to.

Because cities in Europe have more reason to value aesthetics, for obvious reasons. There are usually very strict rules in place for what kind of structures you can place in certain areas - things have to be sympathetic to the existing built environment.