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Old 07-02-2021, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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Update...119 wildfires now burning in BC.
Well that’s just great news…..
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Old 07-02-2021, 04:20 PM
 
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It seems like west coast (BC) will be warmer than east coast (ON) this summer.

Toronto (Normal high: 27C) is 5 degrees warmer than Vancouver (Normal high: 22C) in July on average, but it's possible that Vancouver will be even slightly warmer than Toronto due to the position of jet stream this July. According to the latest temps forecast, Toronto will only reach a high of 21C on July 7 and continue to be cooler than seasonal late next week. Temps in Vancouver will be above seasonal (22C) for at least a week.
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Old 07-02-2021, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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It seems like west coast (BC) will be warmer than east coast (ON) this summer.

Toronto (Normal high: 27C) is 5 degrees warmer than Vancouver (Normal high: 22C) in July on average, but it's possible that Vancouver will be even slightly warmer than Toronto due to the position of jet stream this July. According to the latest temps forecast, Toronto will only reach a high of 21C on July 7 and continue to be cooler than seasonal late next week. Temps in Vancouver will be above seasonal (22C) for at least a week.
Toronto's not on the east coast. Halifax is.
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Old 07-02-2021, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Etobicoke
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It seems like west coast (BC) will be warmer than east coast (ON) this summer.
Are you reinventing geography?
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Old 07-02-2021, 08:21 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Environment Canada confirms it. 49.4 or about 121 in F.
Prior to this weekend the best Lytton has been able to do was 111/44, back in 1941.
The best the entire Dominion has been able to do was 113/45 in Saskatchewan back in 1937.

The U.S. Pacific Northwest and Canada's Pacific Southwest has never seen heat like this since Europeans showed up on the scene and may have never seen this kind of heat since the glaciers went away 14000 or so years ago.
This was a fluke. This may never happen again in the near future. Was the temperature in Lytton helped by a down-sloping wind, akin to a Chinook? Most times in NYC when we have touched 40°C (or once exceeded it on July 9, 1936) this was a factor. Those temperatures almost always feature a northwest or due-west wind.
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Old 07-03-2021, 03:56 AM
 
Location: White House, TN
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This was a fluke. This may never happen again in the near future. Was the temperature in Lytton helped by a down-sloping wind, akin to a Chinook? Most times in NYC when we have touched 40°C (or once exceeded it on July 9, 1936) this was a factor. Those temperatures almost always feature a northwest or due-west wind.
It will happen again, just maybe not in our lifetimes. I'd give it a 50/50 chance of happening again in my lifetime (I'm 28)
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Old 07-03-2021, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Etobicoke
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Saskatchewan's record stood for 84 years. Being broken by 8F means likely that the record will stay for a LONG time if not forever.
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Old 07-03-2021, 07:18 AM
 
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It will happen again, just maybe not in our lifetimes. I'd give it a 50/50 chance of happening again in my lifetime (I'm 28)
I'm sure it happened in the past too when the Western part of North America was in drought several hundred years ago or during the Holocene Optimum when the Northern Plains were much drier and warmer. We might be heading that way again
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Old 07-03-2021, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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I'm sure it happened in the past too when the Western part of North America was in drought several hundred years ago or during the Holocene Optimum when the Northern Plains were much drier and warmer. We might be heading that way again
Yup, Chicago is gonna become a desert with even a warmer climate in just fractions of a degree warmer than the present Chicago climate. At the very least Chicago will become a semi arid climate should the increase in rainfall the past several decades reverse themselves.
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Old 07-03-2021, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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It will happen again, just maybe not in our lifetimes. I'd give it a 50/50 chance of happening again in my lifetime (I'm 28)

A lot depends on what really happens with climate change in coming decades (or if anything happens). The real question on whether it's a fluke or not is would the temperature have still been 49C if we had the same atmospheric conditions in say 1937 (when the previous record in Saskatchewan happened). When Lytton itself was just a degree below the 1937 record in (I want to say) 1941 was it the same atmospheric conditions as now (and by that I mean jet stream pattern, etc. not how much CO2 was in the air, we already know it was almost certainly less).

Science tells me the record would've still been broken but not by nearly as much, but climate can be so complex its hard to tell and we really can't prove or disprove it.


If I had to bet on it, I'd say it won't happen again in my lifetime (I'm 53) but I do think the original 1937 record will be broken somewhere in Canada more than once during it.

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It seems like west coast (BC) will be warmer than east coast (ON) this summer.

Toronto (Normal high: 27C) is 5 degrees warmer than Vancouver (Normal high: 22C) in July on average, but it's possible that Vancouver will be even slightly warmer than Toronto due to the position of jet stream this July. According to the latest temps forecast, Toronto will only reach a high of 21C on July 7 and continue to be cooler than seasonal late next week. Temps in Vancouver will be above seasonal (22C) for at least a week.
Would that be the first time this has happened?


As for the other argument people are giving, yes Toronto is technically not on "the coast" but I think it is meant as such the same as Buffalo and Pittsburgh are part of the US East Coast as a "region". My guess is "east coast" for Canada ends and "Midwest" begins at the Ontario/Manitoba border.
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