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Old 06-25-2013, 01:46 PM
 
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Obama Outlines Ambitious Plan to Cut Greenhouse Gases

Obama Outlines Ambitious Plan to Cut Greenhouse Gases
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/26/us...anted=all&_r=0

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"Daniel P. Schrag, a geochemist who is the head of Harvard University’s Center for the Environment and a member of a presidential science panel that has helped advise the White House on climate change, said he hoped the presidential speech would mark a turning point in the national debate on climate change.

“Everybody is waiting for action,” he said. “The one thing the president really needs to do now is to begin the process of shutting down the conventional coal plants. Politically, the White House is hesitant to say they’re having a war on coal. On the other hand, a war on coal is exactly what’s needed.”"
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:18 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Obama and the Democrats are at a point now where they don't have to care about West Virginia votes. His party won the election twice through the votes of the liberal yuppie elite, the ghetto Democrats, and the illegal aliens. Even Al Gore didn't care about losing West Virginia and other coal producing states. Obama's only solution for the economic ruin this will bring West Virginia is more Obamacare, more handouts, etc etc. People in small town America work hard and are not the same as the ghetto people and illegal immigrants who simply want a handout. It would be better if Obama cared even a little about states like West Virginia and the workers.
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:34 AM
 
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As a former Northeast resident, I never cease to be amazed by the fact that most of the criticism against coal energy comes from those quarters, yet those folks create far more pollution than coal fired power plants because they are too cheap to invest in a delivery system for natural gas heating. They don't mind putting thousands out of work in coal producing areas, but they utilize carbon producing and inefficient heating oil to heat their homes... hundreds of gallons each year per household. It's like putting a million extra tractor trailers on the highway.

You will notice the Administration isn't pointing fingers at those oil guzzling polluters, won't you? He singles out the comparitively politically weak Appalachians.
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Old 06-26-2013, 06:23 AM
 
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Obama and the Democrats are at a point now where they don't have to care about West Virginia votes. His party won the election twice throEhy the votes of the liberal yuppie elite, the ghetto Democrats, and the illegal aliens. Even Al Gore didn't care about losing West Virginia and other coal producing states. Obama's only solution for the economic ruin this will bring West Virginia is more Obamacare, more handouts, etc etc. People in small town America work hard and are not the same as the ghetto people and illegal immigrants who simply want a handout. It would be better if Obama cared even a little about states like West Virginia and the workers.
This happens with both parties. Republicans don't make any real effort to try and win your ex-state of MD or Massachutes. that is the way the electoral college works.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:44 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Democrats used to care about West Virginia and used to get a lot of votes here. Now the national party is changing.

I'm not sure about Obama himself, but a lot of Democrats are ALSO against natural gas fracking which is important in West Virginia as well. Some Democrats in Maryland also want to even stop the export of natural gas through ports on the Chesapeake Bay because they are against the idea of natural gas drilling. It is interesting to see the Baltimore Sun yesterday have an editorial supporting Obama's war on coal, saying natural gas is cleaner. Though just weeks ago they ran another full page editorial attacking the natural gas industry and hydraulic fracturing. I guess nothing less than wind power will suffice.

Hopefully when Obama leaves office either through his term running out or through his impeachment (which is long overdue since any one of his scandals alone is impeachable) his war on coal will be called off and a new president will be able to reverse his orders, which he is trying to implement without the approval of Congress. HOpefuly West Virginia goes completely Republican within a few years and sends a message to Obama and the national Democratic party. His war on coal will also cost jobs at these power plants all over the country. I think the liberals are also against nuclear power as well, and are against hydroelectric power cause that dams up rivers and kills the fish. You can never satisfy them can you.
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Old 06-26-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: WV/Va/Ky/Tn
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WV is still going to be Democrat statewide, it's just that the President is Democrat as well, who was soundly defeated in statewide elections. When Obama is gone, whoever supports Coal, Gas, and natural resources wil win WV.
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Old 06-26-2013, 01:19 PM
 
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WV is still going to be Democrat statewide, it's just that the President is Democrat as well, who was soundly defeated in statewide elections. When Obama is gone, whoever supports Coal, Gas, and natural resources wil win WV.
You forgot guns.

In most elections WV is irrelevant. The other virginia is the prize.
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Old 06-27-2013, 01:49 AM
 
Location: Inwood
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In a couple years coal will be a irrelevant, if you look at some of the technologies coming out it makes coal look primitive. The problem isn't Obama its the fact that WV lives on a coal driven economy that only benefits coal companies (many of which are owned by out of state residents) and the small percentage of people that work in the coal industry. People are so blind by politics they fail to use common sense. Coal might be cheaper in the short term but so is eating mcdonalds. Just look up emerging energy sources in your prefered search engine.
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Old 06-27-2013, 05:58 AM
 
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In a couple years coal will be a irrelevant, if you look at some of the technologies coming out it makes coal look primitive. The problem isn't Obama its the fact that WV lives on a coal driven economy that only benefits coal companies (many of which are owned by out of state residents) and the small percentage of people that work in the coal industry. People are so blind by politics they fail to use common sense. Coal might be cheaper in the short term but so is eating mcdonalds. Just look up emerging energy sources in your prefered search engine.
That is why is southern WV is declining. The future of WV is in the north.
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Old 06-27-2013, 07:35 AM
 
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That is why is southern WV is declining. The future of WV is in the north.

Wow! Well lets go out and wash the truck sell the farm and move to Morgantown!! Geez!
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