06-19-2015, 09:07 PM
Location: Wisconsin
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I'll be graduating & applying to jobs soon. A quick search reveals there are more jobs in rural locations than urban in my field (healthcare). I currently live in the east side of Milwaukee, but I don't take advantage of the offerings. I often ask myself why I'm paying more for rent here when my wife & I are homebodies. There's nothing in the city that I can think of that we utilize that wouldn't be available if we lived a small town. I figure, we might as well save on cost of living, avoid the traffic, & live small. The advantages seem to outweigh disadvantages.
When I lived in La Crosse, Sheboygan, Madison, & Kenosha, I used to head out on weekends to a trail or state park & go for a run, but living where I do now, it's too far of a drive to a state park, so I don't get out to see the trees & scenery. I stick to urban trails (Oak Leaf). I miss that. I'm looking at southwest Wisconsin, which I know isn't really scenic, but there's at least less traffic, & therefore easier access to rural trails & possible state parks. I was raised in this area & family still lives there. (It's been 15 years since I lived there last.)
Something causes me to hesitate about applying for a job in a small town (5-20k pop), but I can't put my finger on it. I always think the grass is greener, so now that I'm living in an urban area, I want out. Though, I'm afraid I'll take a job in a rural setting and then want out of it.
Negatives I can think of
- limited jobs in my field if the current one falls through down the road & we end up buying a house.
- internet speeds (though I've never had a problem with this at my or my spouses parents, but I've heard others complain about rural internet service in some locations)
Any other negatives?
Here's what we like to do. Me: run, lift weights, cook, music, watch sports on TV. My spouse: read, computers & gaming, netflix/amazon instant, & read some more.
06-20-2015, 06:12 AM
Location: coastlines
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Sounds like a small town will be just right for you!
Check the area, but internet speeds are often fine, as are increasing cell phone towers.
You can always travel to nearby cities.
Explore why you think your job would fall through... not sure what you mean by that because you wrote their are more jobs in your field in rural locations.
I think visiting the area is critical to get a sense of the area.
Best wishes!
06-20-2015, 06:28 AM
Location: Wisconsin
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sansea
Explore why you think your job would fall through... not sure what you mean by that because you wrote their are more jobs in your field in rural locations.
It can be a pretty good drive between hospitals/clinics in rural areas if a job were to fall through. I know one person who got a job in my field in the Green Bay area & a couple years later bought a house & shortly after he lost his job. Then was out of luck because there were no jobs in the area. The area was saturated.
The trend is for most hospitals & clinics to be growing though due to the aging baby boomer population, so I'll probably be OK. Though it's not uncommon for hospitals to downsize some services on whims notice. One advantage a city has is there are numerous healthcare facilities in one area. But you're right, I found less jobs in the cities (Madison & Milwaukee) than I did spread out throughout SW Wisconsin.
06-20-2015, 08:41 AM
Location: Indiana Uplands
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It can be a pretty good drive between hospitals/clinics in rural areas if a job were to fall through. I know one person who got a job in my field in the Green Bay area & a couple years later bought a house & shortly after he lost his job. Then was out of luck because there were no jobs in the area. The area was saturated.
The trend is for most hospitals & clinics to be growing though due to the aging baby boomer population, so I'll probably be OK. Though it's not uncommon for hospitals to downsize some services on whims notice. One advantage a city has is there are numerous healthcare facilities in one area. But you're right, I found less jobs in the cities (Madison & Milwaukee) than I did spread out throughout SW Wisconsin.
LaCrosse area is nice, lots of outdoor recreation nearby and closer to Black River State Forest region as well. The rural SW corner towns and cities have been fairly stagnant with wages falling with respect to inflation for a good number of years. Therefore, it has a higher elderly population as younger people and families have left. I did notice that Platteville and Grant County recently started growing again so maybe a few more people are staying and moving into the area.
06-20-2015, 08:46 AM
Location: Johnson Creek,WI
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Some small towns to consider(Lake Mills,Fort Atkinson,McFarland). I would name my own,but it's under 5k.
06-21-2015, 05:25 PM
Location: From Michigan. Now in Memphis, TN
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As long as you're ok with everyone knowing your business. :P
I live in a town that isn't even small, Manitowoc, but it's small compared to where I grew up and for that reason I find living here a bit boring. The lack of good places to eat is the number one reason. Where I spent most of the year, Champaign, Illinois, is three times as big and the diversity of food was great.
Also grocery store options are limited and you might end up at a Walmart for non-grocery needs as small business are dwindling. Lack of resources in general is my biggest deterrent. And when you have a choice you only have one choice unless you drive a distance. So if there's a place you don't like you have little in the way of other close options.
One last thing, and this depends on the town and on you, of course, but you might want to consider religion or lack thereof. Even in Manitowoc, when we moved here we were given a list of churches by the tourism office and when we said we had no need the default response was, "oh you'll find your own church, ok." Not going to church might get you notice depending again on the size and the location. We haven't had a problem since I will say. It was just an odd thing that struck us on moving here.
06-21-2015, 06:33 PM
Location: Johnson Creek,WI
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As long as you're ok with everyone knowing your business. :P
I live in a town that isn't even small, Manitowoc, but it's small compared to where I grew up and for that reason I find living here a bit boring. The lack of good places to eat is the number one reason. Where I spent most of the year, Champaign, Illinois, is three times as big and the diversity of food was great.
Also grocery store options are limited and you might end up at a Walmart for non-grocery needs as small business are dwindling. Lack of resources in general is my biggest deterrent. And when you have a choice you only have one choice unless you drive a distance. So if there's a place you don't like you have little in the way of other close options.
One last thing, and this depends on the town and on you, of course, but you might want to consider religion or lack thereof. Even in Manitowoc, when we moved here we were given a list of churches by the tourism office and when we said we had no need the default response was, "oh you'll find your own church, ok." Not going to church might get you notice depending again on the size and the location. We haven't had a problem since I will say. It was just an odd thing that struck us on moving here.
Champaign is a dump.
06-21-2015, 07:46 PM
Location: Wisconsin
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LaCrosse area is nice, lots of outdoor recreation nearby and closer to Black River State Forest region as well. The rural SW corner towns and cities have been fairly stagnant with wages falling with respect to inflation for a good number of years. Therefore, it has a higher elderly population as younger people and families have left. I did notice that Platteville and Grant County recently started growing again so maybe a few more people are staying and moving into the area.
LaCrosse or a place like it (Eau Claire, Wausau) would be ideal. A medium size city with lots of nice rec nearby. Sadly, La Crosse is always saturated in my field, meaning they don't have openings. I'll have to check the other areas.
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Some small towns to consider(Lake Mills,Fort Atkinson,McFarland). I would name my own,but it's under 5k.
Under 5k is fine. I was just throwing some numbers out there.
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viktor77
As long as you're ok with everyone knowing your business. :P
I live in a town that isn't even small, Manitowoc, but it's small compared to where I grew up and for that reason I find living here a bit boring. The lack of good places to eat is the number one reason. Where I spent most of the year, Champaign, Illinois, is three times as big and the diversity of food was great.
Also grocery store options are limited and you might end up at a Walmart for non-grocery needs as small business are dwindling. Lack of resources in general is my biggest deterrent. And when you have a choice you only have one choice unless you drive a distance. So if there's a place you don't like you have little in the way of other close options.
One last thing, and this depends on the town and on you, of course, but you might want to consider religion or lack thereof.
Good point about everyone knowing your business. Ugh. I was reminded of that when I was at my parents for father's day today. We were at a store in town & the cashier looked somewhat familiar. I only visit about 3-4 times a year & usually just go to my parents the entire time I'm there for a few hours. Somehow the cashier knew my name, that I was living in Milwaukee, what I was majoring in & that I was finishing school soon. I just looked at her like, wow. You know more about me than most my friends in Milwaukee. I don't think my friends here could recall what I'm majoring in. I suspect she may be a friend of my parents.
Food is something I've thought of. We mostly cook. We like Indian, Thai & Mexican restaurants. Though, I figure we only go to these places maybe 2-3 times a year, & Madison or another city should be accessible in an hour or 2 by car. A lot of small towns have Mexican restaurants. The one grocery store is a good point. Right now we stick to Aldi mostly, & then Pick 'n Save for meat & spices. On a rare occasion we'll go to El Rey for a treat.
Also, good point about religion. My brother lives in a small town & can't find a church he likes, so he doesn't go to church sadly. That is an area where a nice selection would be a big plus.
06-21-2015, 09:25 PM
Location: East TX
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We moved from Jefferson County (Johnson Creek) recently and found it great due to the central location between Madison and Milwaukee. With a surprising number of health care facilities in Watertown, Jefferson, Oconomowoc, Lake Mills, and Johnson Creek you can likely find a position and have a replacement within driving distance if ever needed. The travel time to Madison or Milwaukee is reasonable and there are also easy routes to Janesville or Oshkosh.
I would also tell you to look into Wausau area.
06-22-2015, 06:40 AM
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Most Common Occupations - Healthcare practitioners and technical occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Health diagnosing and treating practitioners and other technical occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Health technologists and technicians (%)
Most Common Occupations - Service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Healthcare support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Protective service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Fire fighting and prevention, and other protective service workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Law enforcement workers including supervisors (%)
Most Common Occupations - Food preparation and serving related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Building and grounds cleaning and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Personal care and service occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and office occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Sales and related occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Office and administrative support occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Natural resources, construction, and maintenance occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Farming, fishing, and forestry occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Construction and extraction occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Installation, maintenance, and repair occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production, transportation, and material moving occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Production occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Transportation occupations (%)
Most Common Occupations - Material moving occupations (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)