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Old 03-07-2011, 09:32 AM
 
Location: southwest TN
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i guess that's why you don't have a car.




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Old 03-07-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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Americans are going to have a rude awakening if they think $37,000 a year for a single man in his 20s with practically zero working experience is poor. That's enough to own a used car and maintain it, it's enough to comfortably live in a 1 bedroom apartment with full appliances (and central air in warm climates) in most metro areas and have enough left over to save. Don't blow your money on booze, designer clothes, Comcast cable and a pimpmobile.

Most Chinese university grads make $4000 a year and rent is at least $250 a month for sharing a 100 sq ft bedroom. Try to start a family with that kind of budget. Even a Chinese grad from the number one university in the country (Tsinghua, the equivalent of Harvard) will make something like $12,000 max as an entry-level worker. A 1000 sq ft condo in Shanghai costs $300,000; the Chinese don't even have 30 year mortgages and the standard down payment is 50%. All able-bodied Americans who earn above minimum wage are rich beyond imagination compared to a college-educated Chinese, yet most Americans who can barely add two fractions together and tell you what velocity over time is still feel entitled. Based on what?
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Sumner, WA
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Well, because I'm single, don't have a mortgage, and I don't have kids - a salary in that range would be awesome.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:53 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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Americans are going to have a rude awakening if they think $37,000 a year for a single man in his 20s with practically zero working experience is poor. That's enough to own a used car and maintain it, it's enough to comfortably live in a 1 bedroom apartment with full appliances (and central air in warm climates) in most metro areas and have enough left over to save. Don't blow your money on booze, designer clothes, Comcast cable and a pimpmobile.
This is not China.

Beater used car: $4,000 Payment $75, Insurance $125
I Bedroom Apartment: $1,000 if you can find one that cheap here
Income Tax, SocSec: $800 (Plus state in many areas)

A single person with no mortgage interest to deduct would have about a thousand left for everything else like utilities, food, clothes, gas, entertainment, insurance, medical plan contribution, repairs on the old car. Certainly possible, but really hard in the Seattle area or California.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:21 AM
 
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I'd like to point out that, in places with good public transport (like Philly or NYC) people don't need a car, and parking is very difficult. People can make a lot of money and not keep a car, and maybe rent one for a weekend getaway if they so desire. I certainly knew people who made a LOT of money and didn't own a car in NYC- didn't need one.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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All able-bodied Americans who earn above minimum wage are rich beyond imagination compared to a college-educated Chinese, yet most Americans who can barely add two fractions together and tell you what velocity over time is still feel entitled. Based on what?
Okay, but that kind of knowledge IS NOT REQUIRED for all professional fields.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:40 PM
 
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And one-third of the world's six billion people live in utter miserable poverty/squalor/no hope. I'm not sure that helps with perspective.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:36 AM
 
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This is not China.

Beater used car: $4,000 Payment $75, Insurance $125
I Bedroom Apartment: $1,000 if you can find one that cheap here
Income Tax, SocSec: $800 (Plus state in many areas)

A single person with no mortgage interest to deduct would have about a thousand left for everything else like utilities, food, clothes, gas, entertainment, insurance, medical plan contribution, repairs on the old car. Certainly possible, but really hard in the Seattle area or California.
Nowhere did I see "not enough money for food or shelter". Not even close to being poor.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:39 PM
 
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In CA, it is poor.
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:44 AM
 
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All depends on the area, your debt level, hours worked, etc. I think it's a great starting salary. Just budget and live with it and you'll be fine for a while.
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