What type of jobs can I hold with a TS/SCI+Mil Exp? (employment, apply)
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What type of jobs can I hold with a TS/SCI? I have an interest on relevant global issues. I have security forces military expierence but would prefer not to be a sentry. I would like to either live in a major metropolitan area or travel/live overseas if possible. What degrees should pursue? A long search that is driving me mad, open to any and all suggestions.
A lot of intelligence work, satellite, recon. A lot of these jobs are advertised in a general sense but will mention either an SCI or SSBI.
Check web sites like clearance jobs, USA defense industry jobs, USA jobs.
Also, check with a lot of the big aerospace contractors.
Most of what I have seen require at least a BS in engineering or science or comp sci.
This very tyope of discussion was attempted in the MIlitary Forum and it sadly turned into a "if you don't say anything good about vets and their experiences, you hate vets and are unamaerican".
But since you posted here, I'll rephrase what I was saying there.
Before we go anywhere on this, the number one thing you have to do and learn is if talking about civilian employment and asking civilians to assist, speak in civilian terms.
What the heck is TS/SCI? How many civilians can decipher what you are asking?
This is not meant as a negative, but rather a very common mistake military people make when seeking civilian employment, they speak to civilians in military terminology.
This very tyope of discussion was attempted in the MIlitary Forum and it sadly turned into a "if you don't say anything good about vets and their experiences, you hate vets and are unamaerican".
But since you posted here, I'll rephrase what I was saying there.
Before we go anywhere on this, the number one thing you have to do and learn is if talking about civilian employment and asking civilians to assist, speak in civilian terms.
What the heck is TS/SCI? How many civilians can decipher what you are asking?
This is not meant as a negative, but rather a very common mistake military people make when seeking civilian employment, they speak to civilians in military terminology.
TS/SCI = Top Secret / Sensitive Compartmentalized Information. Basically a government clearance. It's actually not that uncommon of a term - albeit I live and work in the DC metro area... so my perspective may be skewed.
To the OP - Having such clearance provides you many more opportunities in markets that others do not even have access to. However, the bigger question would be what your qualifications are with regards to your background...
TS/SCI = Top Secret / Sensitive Compartmentalized Information. Basically a government clearance. It's actually not that uncommon of a term - albeit I live and work in the DC metro area... so my perspective may be skewed.
To the OP - Having such clearance provides you many more opportunities in markets that others do not even have access to. However, the bigger question would be what your qualifications are with regards to your background...
Ah, thanks. I was thinking Tech Sgt? Supply, Conveyance, Inventory ??? It wasn't telling me about the person's skills and what type of jobs that skill set would translate into civilian employment. The security clearence is certainly a benefit esxpecially if the position requires it, but if the clearance was because they destroyed documents or was related to determining when documents went from one level to another, it wouldn;t help for jobs requirng electronic, technical avinis etc skills.
Where I have seen so many good candidates resumes being tossed is because we never could figure out what they did or knew. I see way to much emphasis on the "universal military" as some form of expecation of employment qualifications and not enough on I did this, I can operate that.
I agree that the primary thing right now is what are the OP's skills and what civilian jobs does those skill translate too.
A lot of intelligence work, satellite, recon. A lot of these jobs are advertised in a general sense but will mention either an SCI or SSBI.
Check web sites like clearance jobs, USA defense industry jobs, USA jobs.
Also, check with a lot of the big aerospace contractors.
Most of what I have seen require at least a BS in engineering or science or comp sci.
I was interested in intelligence work however I do not know what types of degrees I should pursue? I also do not know much detail about the different types of intelligence fields.
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Originally Posted by PacificFlights
This very tyope of discussion was attempted in the MIlitary Forum and it sadly turned into a "if you don't say anything good about vets and their experiences, you hate vets and are unamaerican".
But since you posted here, I'll rephrase what I was saying there.
Before we go anywhere on this, the number one thing you have to do and learn is if talking about civilian employment and asking civilians to assist, speak in civilian terms.
What the heck is TS/SCI? How many civilians can decipher what you are asking?
This is not meant as a negative, but rather a very common mistake military people make when seeking civilian employment, they speak to civilians in military terminology.
Top secret.
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Originally Posted by macroy
TS/SCI = Top Secret / Sensitive Compartmentalized Information. Basically a government clearance. It's actually not that uncommon of a term - albeit I live and work in the DC metro area... so my perspective may be skewed.
To the OP - Having such clearance provides you many more opportunities in markets that others do not even have access to. However, the bigger question would be what your qualifications are with regards to your background...
Security forces, protecting important national assets and top secret information. However, I am not interested in being a security sentry any longer.
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Originally Posted by PacificFlights
Ah, thanks. I was thinking Tech Sgt? Supply, Conveyance, Inventory ??? It wasn't telling me about the person's skills and what type of jobs that skill set would translate into civilian employment. The security clearence is certainly a benefit esxpecially if the position requires it, but if the clearance was because they destroyed documents or was related to determining when documents went from one level to another, it wouldn;t help for jobs requirng electronic, technical avinis etc skills.
Where I have seen so many good candidates resumes being tossed is because we never could figure out what they did or knew. I see way to much emphasis on the "universal military" as some form of expecation of employment qualifications and not enough on I did this, I can operate that.
I agree that the primary thing right now is what are the OP's skills and what civilian jobs does those skill translate too.
I am interested in Intel and any other fields anyone can think of. Big question is, what degrees should I be looking at as I am done with my first enlistment soon.
Sorry, can't help, you are outside my area on those jobs.
But if you ever want to discuss the practical transition from military to civilian, give me a shout. I have beome good at identifyng the pitfalls many ex-military fall into. In my work, just about everything we do has a direct military position and similar methods of operation. I get many resumes and applicants leaving the military and unfortunetely, the transition doesn't always go well. Good luck
If you look at intelligence openings for the CIA, FBI, NSA, and DIA; they prefer degrees in international relations, political science, national security studies (different from homeland security), foreign language, intelligence studies, or foreign area studies. To a lesser degree, they also desire history (internationally focused), anthropology, military studies/history, and geography. For some of the technical or white collar crime intelligence jobs; they prefer engineering, business administration, finance/accounting, computer science, economics, information technology, geospatial intelligence, information assurance/security or cyber security, and the like. Your military experience will give you an edge with the government and your security clearance will make the hiring process faster. The government is your best chance for entry-level employment.
Government contractors usually want experience in intelligence, and when you pair that with a security clearance, you're in because they don't like to sponsor people. If you don't have intelligence experience, these companies also love to hire recent college graduates who already obtained clearances through internships with the government. So if your interest is in global issues, definitely go for international relations, political science (internationally focused), or security studies and learn a critical needs language such as Arabic, Farsi/Persian, Russian, Chinese (Mandarin), Hindi, Dari, Urdu, etc. Intelligence analysis and the Department of State (foreign service officer) will probably appeal to you.
If you want to keep your clearance active and need a job now without a degree, look at security officer or access control jobs that require a security clearance. The federal government has some security jobs requiring a clearance and government contractors that work with sensitive information are required to have the security officers or access control specialists cleared. This list of defense contractors should help you out, but even some private security companies have positions requiring clearance i.e. AlliedBarton.
If you look at intelligence openings for the CIA, FBI, NSA, and DIA; they prefer degrees in international relations, political science, national security studies (different from homeland security), foreign language, intelligence studies, or foreign area studies. To a lesser degree, they also desire history (internationally focused), anthropology, military studies/history, and geography. For some of the technical or white collar crime intelligence jobs; they prefer engineering, business administration, finance/accounting, computer science, economics, information technology, geospatial intelligence, information assurance/security or cyber security, and the like. Your military experience will give you an edge with the government and your security clearance will make the hiring process faster. The government is your best chance for entry-level employment.
Government contractors usually want experience in intelligence, and when you pair that with a security clearance, you're in because they don't like to sponsor people. If you don't have intelligence experience, these companies also love to hire recent college graduates who already obtained clearances through internships with the government. So if your interest is in global issues, definitely go for international relations, political science (internationally focused), or security studies and learn a critical needs language such as Arabic, Farsi/Persian, Russian, Chinese (Mandarin), Hindi, Dari, Urdu, etc. Intelligence analysis and the Department of State (foreign service officer) will probably appeal to you.
If you want to keep your clearance active and need a job now without a degree, look at security officer or access control jobs that require a security clearance. The federal government has some security jobs requiring a clearance and government contractors that work with sensitive information are required to have the security officers or access control specialists cleared. This list of defense contractors should help you out, but even some private security companies have positions requiring clearance i.e. AlliedBarton.
Thanks. Great information. I was hoping to go to school back home (NYC) but if I need to remain in the D.C. area I understand. Do you know anything about the U.N.? Is a T.S. Relevant there or is that a totally different animal. Thinking about going reserve, Intel, to maintain my clearance. Anyone in civilian Intel? Enjoyable? Stress levels? Military is always a different animal.
For someone else who left me a message, the CIA and FBI do have intel jobs for chemistry, mathematics, and physics majors.
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Originally Posted by Milguynyc718
Thanks. Great information. I was hoping to go to school back home (NYC) but if I need to remain in the D.C. area I understand. Do you know anything about the U.N.? Is a T.S. Relevant there or is that a totally different animal. Thinking about going reserve, Intel, to maintain my clearance. Anyone in civilian Intel? Enjoyable? Stress levels? Military is always a different animal.
Most of the federal government intel jobs are going to be in the DMV area (D.C., Maryland, Virginia), but defense contractors are everywhere. I live in a big military city, so defense contractors like to set up shop here. Hopefully, someone in the intelligence industry will post. I'm not an intelligence analyst, but I'm looking to become one. There are some jobs I can apply to now with my current bachelor's degree in social science (psychology and criminal justice focus) because there are some positions that take every major, but I'll have a better chance after completing the M.S. in Security Studies program that I just applied for. I'm also thinking about buying Rosetta Stone so I can learn Farsi.
Of course, I can't give a first-hand account of stress, but I have read other forums with postings from intelligence analysts. From what I heard, it is a moderately stressful job. Some website had ratings for stressful jobs with "A" being the least stressful and "F" being the most stressful. Intelligence analysis got a "C." It also depends on which agency you work for. A lot of people didn't like the CIA culture under the previous director. I heard that the NSA is better, but they don't have as many openings. Defense contractor work can be stressful because people are often laid-off when contracts end.
The USA Jobs website used to have a link where you could apply for international jobs with the U.N. I can no longer find it, but if you don't already know about the site, check it out. All of the government intel jobs will be on there with the exception of the CIA, NSA, and DIA.
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