Disability entitlement (employment, unemployment, find a job, taxes)

[Sharecropper]

Does society owe you your basic survival needs if you are not able to secure employment before you run out of money and means to live?

If, after two, three, four years you cannot find employment even when exercising due diligence and all accepted means of searching, are you not de facto disabled? Whether you believe you are or not, has not society already made its judgement that you do not fit in, for whatever logical or illogical reasoning?

[arc212]

The thing about our current economic implementation is that, while it's not the best we'll ever have, it's simply the best way we've come up with for doing things, and it does a decent (not great) job. You need to provide something to society to justify it providing something to you. We will eventually come up with a better way of doing that, this cycle of pooling wealth outside of general society cannot continue. Certain elements are reaping far more than they provide, with damaging long term implications.

My question to the "entitlement" camp is this, where do you draw the baseline? How many kids are you allowed to have before we make you start doing something to support them? How much medical care are you entitled to before you have to start paying for it? why with billions of people starving in the world should you be guaranteed a comfortable existence simply because you did well in the birth lottery? We can do better for ourselves, but it won't be done by mortgaging society to provide for those who do not contribute.


Also, I think a lot of us underestimate the laziness of people.

[Thursday007]

Originally Posted by Sharecropper

Does society owe you your basic survival needs if you are not able to secure employment before you run out of money and means to live?

If, after two, three, four years you cannot find employment even when exercising due diligence and all accepted means of searching, are you not de facto disabled? Whether you believe you are or not, has not society already made its judgement that you do not fit in, for whatever logical or illogical reasoning?

In this scenerio you qualify for welfare not disability. It's Welfare entitlement not disability. You need significant proof, tests and the involvement of 3rd party doctors to qualify for disability it is not just handed to people. Welfare, on the other hand, is when you can no longer find employment and have lost everything you own and are not allowed to own anything. Statistics also indicate if you were raised on welfare - then you'll be on welfare and then your children too. There exists a serious issue of Welfare entitlement, not disability.

[TRC2k11]

Originally Posted by Sharecropper

Does society owe you your basic survival needs if you are not able to secure employment before you run out of money and means to live?

Are you saying that if your unemployment runs out you should be supported by the state or government because you can't find a job?

Nope. You are not owed a living.

[Sharecropper]

Originally Posted by TRC2k11

Are you saying that if your unemployment runs out you should be supported by the state or government because you can't find a job?

Nope. You are not owed a living.

So all the taxes these people have paid throughout their lives goes towards everything but the most important needs?