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Old 11-21-2012, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Not to mention all the nice clothes he/she will need as a surgeon.
I thought they were nakid underneath them smocks
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Old 11-21-2012, 07:55 AM
 
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I still haven't found an answer to this one yet...

You see grown men with a house or two, a car, a boat, a cellphone and laptop for everyone in his family....and they're still up everyday trying to get more stuff.

It's like they're never satisfied. What's worse id half the time it's people who do something that doesn't even matter...I mean, if the guy's a surgeon, then I can see it. But half the time it's like some banker or something...

And they just go on with what seems like an insatiable appetite...never pausing to think, what do I need, really? Because the answer would shock them...

They don't need anything. Most of what they need, if not all of what they need, they've had since they were children.

But, without that purpose, that illusion of purpose, it's like they get scared. And, that's the saddest form of a man I can think of...a man who not only doesn't know his purpose, but also one who is too afraid to find out and just lives the life laid out for him as if he were incapable of finding his own purpose.

Also, I need a job. Once I graduate, any suggestions as to where I should look?

Something 'purposeful' please.
People work so they can enjoy a quality of life. If that means buying a boat or a computer for everyone, it is their money, and if purchasing something fullfills their satisfaciton at the moment, so be it. I think many people have too much junk, but it is their life, it is up to them to curb their materialism.

A banker is hardly worthless, who do you think provides the financing for the hospital and equipment for the surgeon to use? Who do you think is taking care of the surgeon's money? Despite the negativity, the banking system has contributed greatly to the quality of life and advancement of society. Go live in a country with a poor banking/financial system and you will see poor living conditions (personal experience).

I hope you are just about to graduate high school and not college.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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More than a job you seem to need a psychiatrist.
Excellent.

(If I wrote that, I'd get an infraction.)
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:04 AM
 
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O.K. Mr. Banker, I'll take it back. Indeed, how I even came up with the idea that perhaps surgeons are a bit more important in life (or even to life) is beyond me...I'll be sure to tell the doctors in my family that 'you know, bankers save just as many lives as you do...'
Bankers contribute more to society and saving lives than any one doctor does. It is the banks who provide the financing for the doctor's education; it is the banks that provide financing for the facilities and equipment the doctors use; it is the banks that provide start up capital for medical tech companies; I can go on and on about a banks role in society. Does the good doctor have any loans? Ever? Were those loans from a financial institution or serviced by one?

The USSR had doctors and engineers also, but no financial system to allow the full potential of these specialists to perform. Like it or not, the world revolves aorund the financial/banking system.

This is why I do not even like it when people look down upon a dishwasher or janitor; they have a role in the functioning of society, the only difference is their role is easily replaceable unlike a surgeon, but no reason to look down on them in my opinion.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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They don't need anything.

But, without that purpose, that illusion of purpose, it's like they get scared. And, that's the saddest form of a man I can think of...a man who not only doesn't know his purpose, but also one who is too afraid to find out and just lives the life laid out for him as if he were incapable of finding his own purpose.
For some reason, I visualize this guy speaking.

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Old 11-21-2012, 08:08 AM
 
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So now I'm stupid?

O.K. Mr. Banker, I'll take it back. Indeed, how I even came up with the idea that perhaps surgeons are a bit more important in life (or even to life) is beyond me...I'll be sure to tell the doctors in my family that 'you know, bankers save just as many lives as you do...'

But, seriously, I don't want to show up unprepared.

"What do you want to do?"
"A job."
"What type of job?"
"A paid one."

You see what I mean?
Well Mr. Stupid, you're just not ready for primetime if those are the kinds of questions you are asking and this is how you talk with people.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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That banker will matter in a hurry when the surgeon starts making money.
Uh, no. Not if this surgeon has any intelligence with respect to personal finance. And anyone who has the intelligence to be a surgeon should be able to invest his money himself.

Most mutual fund managers and financial "advisor" types add no value. Some do, but you really have to know what you're looking for. In the case of mutual fund manager,s they often subtract value vs what you could earn in an index. In fact, most of them cannot beat their benchmark indices. This is why the OP talks about surgeons having more value than bankers. Worst case scenario if a surgeon effs up: Death. Worst case for a mutual fund manager or banker: Someone loses a lot of money. No comparison.

Not sure why people are so upset at the OP. He asks a very important question. and he's right: Many people do not question the treadmill or system they are on and spend a lot of energy and time trying to make a bit more money so they can buy one more car, one more consumer item, etc.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:25 AM
 
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Uh, no. Not if this surgeon has any intelligence with respect to personal finance. And anyone who has the intelligence to be a surgeon should be able to invest his money himself.

Most mutual fund managers and financial "advisor" types add no value. Some do, but you really have to know what you're looking for. In the case of mutual fund manager,s they often subtract value vs what you could earn in an index. In fact, most of them cannot beat their benchmark indices. This is why the OP talks about surgeons having more value than bankers. Worst case scenario if a surgeon effs up: Death. Worst case for a mutual fund manager or banker: Someone loses a lot of money. No comparison.

Not sure why people are so upset at the OP. He asks a very important question. and he's right: Many people do not question the treadmill or system they are on and spend a lot of energy and time trying to make a bit more money so they can buy one more car, one more consumer item, etc.
Do you know any surgeons? I interact with several surgeons at my country club. They don't care to be bothered with finances. They all use the same handful of people to handle their money.

Oh, btw, almost no surgeons go through school without getting loans. And they don't borrow money from their barber. Bankers are incredible important. To say that surgeons are more important or vice verse is just plain ignorant and silly.

People are upset with the OP because his post is full of insults to general society and then follows up with additional posts that insult those who give him critical advice.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:34 AM
 
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Uh, no. Not if this surgeon has any intelligence with respect to personal finance. And anyone who has the intelligence to be a surgeon should be able to invest his money himself.

Most mutual fund managers and financial "advisor" types add no value. Some do, but you really have to know what you're looking for. In the case of mutual fund manager,s they often subtract value vs what you could earn in an index. In fact, most of them cannot beat their benchmark indices. This is why the OP talks about surgeons having more value than bankers. Worst case scenario if a surgeon effs up: Death. Worst case for a mutual fund manager or banker: Someone loses a lot of money. No comparison.

Not sure why people are so upset at the OP. He asks a very important question. and he's right: Many people do not question the treadmill or system they are on and spend a lot of energy and time trying to make a bit more money so they can buy one more car, one more consumer item, etc.
Disagree, the largest client base for my company (financial services) are doctors, many (maybe most?) doctors use financial services for their money, this holds true throught many countries in the world as our client base is world-wide. Doctors are generally intelligent, and they know the jack of all trades approach results in less efficiency, that is why they engage in specialized services for their money.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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Uh, no. Not if this surgeon has any intelligence with respect to personal finance. And anyone who has the intelligence to be a surgeon should be able to invest his money himself.

Most mutual fund managers and financial "advisor" types add no value. Some do, but you really have to know what you're looking for. In the case of mutual fund manager,s they often subtract value vs what you could earn in an index. In fact, most of them cannot beat their benchmark indices. This is why the OP talks about surgeons having more value than bankers. Worst case scenario if a surgeon effs up: Death. Worst case for a mutual fund manager or banker: Someone loses a lot of money. No comparison.

Not sure why people are so upset at the OP. He asks a very important question. and he's right: Many people do not question the treadmill or system they are on and spend a lot of energy and time trying to make a bit more money so they can buy one more car, one more consumer item, etc.
Right. Because someone who spends a few hours looking at investment options on a weekend is going to do just as well as someone who does it for 60 hours/week all year long.

In other news, if you give a doctor a few hours to study, they could create a better search engine than Google because hey, doctors are smart people. right?
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