"Fake it to make it." Lying on a resmue, faking degrees, etc.

[city414]

Originally Posted by lmw36

Something like that that is easily verifiable could easily ruin your career for a while.

How and what if the place doesn't exist anymore

[cra2ybeautiful]

foreigners fake their resumes?

Originally Posted by GTRdad

Ive met people who was succcessful doing this. Whats really sad is many foreigners do this as a company. Many indians fake resumes. Whats worse is many have schemes to avoid paying the taxes they owe by letting their indian employers cheat the system

[cra2ybeautiful]

Yep, company culture usually means they want you to be as fake and butt kissing as they are.

Originally Posted by MSchemist80

After what I went through on the job hunt and the violations of every form of moral and ethical conduct I see and read about daily from corporations, and seeing the absolute and compete retardedness and illogic in the hiring process I have no sympathy for companies and no moral outrage for anyone doing just about anything to get hired.

A lot of people on here talk about how important it is to fit in the the company culture. When the company lies and cheats and behaves repulsively and you need a job with them you should act as they do. That is fitting in.

[Disgustedman]

Originally Posted by city414

How and what if the place doesn't exist anymore

I had 2 companies lay me off. Both still have "Offices" in the USA . It is RARE that a company will fully close their doors and leave no lasting way to contact them. Unless it's a small M&P shop and even then, the owners will be available.

As an example, I worked for a major TV maker on the west coast. I did a web search for corp headquarters and within 30 min had a number for employers to call. Same thing with my second company.

[BigDGeek]

I never lie about anything on my resume. It's not worth the risk.

[davenj08]

Originally Posted by GTRdad

Ive met people who was succcessful doing this. Whats really sad is many foreigners do this as a company. Many indians fake resumes. Whats worse is many have schemes to avoid paying the taxes they owe by letting their indian employers cheat the system

That, unfortunately, is true! I wouldn't blame it on the "Indians" but since they are the majority of the foreign workers, they count more than others. Yes, I have seen a person being "marketed" by 4-5 completely distinct resumes (their education, past experience) by their Indian placement agencies (mostly tier 2 or 3). The tier 1 vendors (like Spherion or Robert Half) are mostly unaware of this and the placement agencies (lower tiered) make sure they never do. They would "market" a young 22 year old right out of grad school as having 6 years of experience, when the reality would be that person does not even have 3 months of real experience working in US. Even worse, they will let an expert attend the phone interview and send the real candidate only for the in-person interview which wouldn't be as technical as the techie phone interview is already done and they would have done so well to impress the on-phone interviewer (which they very well might have been listening to sitting next to the expert)!

The model somehow worked for them becasue the people they placed, though inexperienced, were smart and eager to learn and work hard. Most of them would have a Masters degree from US universities in Computer Science, Electrical, Instrumental, Industrial, MIS, etc. They would go on to a job, mostly programming/development (which they already know from their academics/internships), and within 6 months most would turn out above average and do a good job; getting extensions on their contracts and keeping their assignments on schedule.

The Indian placement agencies raked in millions doing this between 1995-2005. They would make anywhere from $80-120 per hour on the individual; pay the contractor anywhere from $15-25 and keep the rest to themselves. Since, employers and tier 1 vendors have caught up and things are more transparent than they were earlier.