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I can never get over how often and serious employers are about asking if you know how to use MS Office, and to rate yourself at it. I'm not talking 20k a year jobs either. I'm talking jobs in the 50's and 60k's that require a degree. I mean if you can't figure out how to do email, spreadsheets, and word documents, then you have issues. Especially if you graduated college! I thought those were the first programs you are taught in college. How do you even graduate college without knowing these programs?
You might be surprised what many people don't know how to do. And unless you take classes on MS Office at the local tech school or community college, it's typically not something that is covered in depth in a traditional college curriculum. That said, it's not too difficult to learn on your own. I learned the basics at a tech school that I went to. Everything else was picked up through online tutorials. It seems the most important programs that I use in my line of work are Excel and Access. I just finished designing a database for my employer as a matter of fact.
I can never get over how often and serious employers are about asking if you know how to use MS Office, and to rate yourself at it. I'm not talking 20k a year jobs either. I'm talking jobs in the 50's and 60k's that require a degree. I mean if you can't figure out how to do email, spreadsheets, and word documents, then you have issues. Especially if you graduated college! I thought those were the first programs you are taught in college. How do you even graduate college without knowing these programs?
You graduate college in the late 80s or early 90s, which probably puts you in your 40s or 50s.
I can never get over how often and serious employers are about asking if you know how to use MS Office, and to rate yourself at it. I'm not talking 20k a year jobs either. I'm talking jobs in the 50's and 60k's that require a degree. I mean if you can't figure out how to do email, spreadsheets, and word documents, then you have issues. Especially if you graduated college! I thought those were the first programs you are taught in college. How do you even graduate college without knowing these programs?
Those programs were not required when I was working my real life pay a salary job so what I used in college to pass those classes was left in college in those classes.
I can never get over how often and serious employers are about asking if you know how to use MS Office, and to rate yourself at it. I'm not talking 20k a year jobs either. I'm talking jobs in the 50's and 60k's that require a degree. I mean if you can't figure out how to do email, spreadsheets, and word documents, then you have issues. Especially if you graduated college! I thought those were the first programs you are taught in college. How do you even graduate college without knowing these programs?
You'd be amazed how many people say they know word or excel but really don't.
theres different user ability as well. most people that say they know how to use excel and word are just beginners, there are intermediate and advanced skill levels...the majority will never have to exceed the beginner level but if you have not had time or the need to use office then your skills will be sub par
It seems the most important programs that I use in my line of work are Excel and Access. I just finished designing a database for my employer as a matter of fact.
If a significant portion of the position is designing databases, I'd think that the employer would be specific about wanting Access skills as opposed to just Office. That's a very different type of skill than knowing Word or Excel.
I use art programs like Corel, Illustrator, Photochop, etc, and still have problems with MS stuff, which we have to use daily, too. I suppose it depends what job you are going for. Im OK with Word, but some stuff in Excel cell formatting stuff gives me problems. Anecdotally, I find anything MS related to be very substandard in many ways. From crashing to not leading a user with intuitive programming are two of any MS programs flaws.
Ive had to take Prove-It tests in some jobs and passed, but Im stull not entirely comfortable with MS stuff.
OFF TOPIC~~ I found on my Prove-It tests, on a lot of questions there is a hint word and to verify a pop-up box will appear with a follow-up question. If you have to take one, and a little perplexed at a question, look for the pop-ups!!!
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