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Old 08-04-2014, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Originally Posted by kokonutty View Post
Not informing an applicant of the time frame in which he can expect a response, especially when it extends to four months, is unprofessional. If you don't see it that way you may want to take a step back and reexamine the situation.
No hiring manager goes into the interview thinking it's going to be four months. It took one Fortune 200 company three months to hire me and I still don't know why. I was initially told I would hear back in a few weeks. I think it's red tape in most cases.
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:38 AM
 
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No hiring manager goes into the interview thinking it's going to be four months. It took one Fortune 200 company three months to hire me and I still don't know why. I was initially told I would hear back in a few weeks. I think it's red tape in most cases.
I work in academia, and while 4 months is not an unusual length of time for a position to be open, it would be quite rare for four months to pass between the interview and the offer. Most of the bureaucratic processes should be addressed before the job is posted. Do we need to hire for this position? Is there funding available? Review/amend job description, determine hiring committee, determine timeline, sign the necessary approvals, then wait for the applications to roll in.

Inevitably there is a bit of scrambling as interview dates are shifted to accommodate the hiring committee and preferred applicants schedules. Once the interviews are set though, it is usually just a matter of deciding on the successful applicant, offer/acceptance, background check and you are good to go.

A 3-4 month wait after the interview makes me think that there are internal power struggles of some sort interfering with the process.
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Old 08-04-2014, 08:27 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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I work in academia, and while 4 months is not an unusual length of time for a position to be open, it would be quite rare for four months to pass between the interview and the offer.

My process at a, um, highly respected University in Cambridge MA took over 6 months from first interview. Four months process wasn't uncommon.
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Old 08-04-2014, 09:40 AM
 
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Not an opinion, fact. I was taught the meaning of professionalism by my longest employer.
Unemployable? No. Overlooked by poor interviewers, yes.

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Old 08-04-2014, 10:03 AM
 
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Low

Slow people? Really? I think you are the slow one. You discard your top prospect because he yawned? Arrogance and incompetence. Considering that you cannot even spell loser correctly you shouldn't be judging anyone.
He yawned repeatedly, you don't see that as a faux pas during a job interview??
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:44 AM
 
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He yawned repeatedly, you don't see that as a faux pas during a job interview??
But the person said it was because they've been up late a lot lately.

People yawn a lot when they don't get enough sleep, it's normal. You don't know what could be going on in their lives. So it was a silly reason to reject them.
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:00 AM
 
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But the person said it was because they've been up late a lot lately.

People yawn a lot when they don't get enough sleep, it's normal. You don't know what could be going on in their lives. So it was a silly reason to reject them.
Why should an interviewer care what's going on in their lives? When I was 14 years old working at Roy Rogers I complained at a shift meeting that A, B, and C was going on in my life and that's why mgt should let whatever go. The GM told me that he was sorry I had etc going on, but it wasn't his problem. He was right and that was a lesson learned as a kid. How this lesson is foreign to grown adults I don't get.

There is no reason a person cannot hide the fact that they're yawning while doing a phone interview. It's a weird thing to do.
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:15 AM
 
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Why should an interviewer care what's going on in their lives?
Using that logic, why should an applicant care how much red tape there is in your hiring process when they're waiting on a response about their application or interview?

I know the knee-jerk reaction will be "well the applicant is the one who needs the job...," but it just goes to show the double standard that exists in these exchanges.
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:17 AM
 
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Describe a situation other than the sender being an idiot and having misspellings/poor grammar?
She already did describe a situation in the post you quoted.
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Old 08-04-2014, 11:22 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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She already did describe a situation in the post you quoted.

No, she absolutely did not.

She went back after I posted my question and she edited her post and inserted the example. Which is a p*ss poor example that doesn't reflect reality in the professional workplace.

Thank you very much.
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