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I did work for 3 years full time for a decent pay, however i was like zombie at the end of the work day brain was exhausted and body sometimes too so most i'd do would be go grocery shopping or watch TV before going to sleep. Don't get me wrong i don't have any special condition. Back then i thought money is everything and there's no other way, i had money, but no time to enjoy my life.
Here's my usual working day its been same for 3 years.
6:30am - prepare for work
7:30am - i drive to work
8:00am - i started working
13:00 - hour lunch break
14:00 - work continues
5:00 or sometimes 5:30 - i drive home 6:00 - i am home finally can live for myself 10:00 - i go to sleep to wake up again at 6:30am.
So i live for myself from 6pm to 10pm - about 4 hours a day and its not even quality time because i am exhausted after working plus its dark outside already and same stuff every day. Lets skip weekends because its just 2 days out of 7 and some places make you work on weekends too.
I bet most say i am wrong and that they enjoy working talking to people help customers etc - glad it works for you, i am not the same what i do at work is to get money not getting anything else out of it other than my time wasted for something/someone for that paycheck rather than spent time for myself or be with my loved ones.
So if i care less about money i am fine with having my rent paid and having extra $500 monthly for other expenses does it make sense to don't work full time or at all and spend my life as i want?! I think yes its very important to have my life to me.
I am not in a cult or trying to convince that its the only right way for everyone, just trying to answer it for myself, have you ever thought similar or asked yourself same question, if so what was your conclusion?
99.9% probably will tell me that i need to work to get money otherwise i will not survive or my life wont be fulfilled without lots of money or think i am some weirdo romantic dreamer/philosopher or guy who just has nothing better to do than ask stupid questions to which he already knows the answer... Or how would you do if you get medical bill of 10,000 and what would you do if your credit score goes down, wish there was mute button for this people but i guess i'd have to hear them anyway.
Before you shoot standard answers and criticism, please take 1 minute and analyze this outside the box.
Last edited by Petrovich; 09-18-2015 at 02:49 AM..
What do you do for a living? There are a lot of jobs out there that are just physically and mentally demanding. If you don't get enough of a break or escape from it, then you'll always feel drained and unhappy.
I was somewhat in the same situation as you, working a job that had long hours, unimpressive pay and left me feeling too drained to do anything else. Eventually, I made a judgement call - I quit and started freelancing full-time for nearly double the pay. It was something that didn't leave me too drained, plus I could make my own hours and even step back and recharge if I needed to.
So if i care less about money i am fine with having my rent paid and having extra $500 monthly for other expenses does it make sense to don't work full time or at all and spend my life as i want?! I think yes its very important to have my life to me.
If you are not working, where exactly is the money coming from to have your rent paid and an "extra $500 monthly"?
Please clarify you last (bolded) sentence. Your question was "to work or NOT to work", not "to work hard and make lots of money or to work less and make less money". It's great to "think outside the box" but please do it on your dime not mine.
where's your $ going to come from? *by magic*?
Our civilization is shaped in a way that you have to earn currency in order to live comfortably and be able to buy the necessities of life.
you sound pretty young, so you probably have a little bit (not a lot) of time left to figure out what you want to do in life and what will make you happy.
there's ALOT that can be done from the time you get home and the time you go to sleep (and even more during the weekends).
you could go to a lake, or meet with friends, or go to the gym, or pick up a hobby.
just don't watch TV like a zombie.
Here's my usual working day its been same for 3 years.
6:30am - prepare for work
7:30am - i drive to work
8:00am - i started working
13:00 - hour lunch break
14:00 - work continues
5:00 or sometimes 5:30 - i drive home 6:00 - i am home finally can live for myself 10:00 - i go to sleep to wake up again at 6:30am.
So i live for myself from 6pm to 10pm - about 4 hours a day and its not even quality time because i am exhausted after working plus its dark outside already and same stuff every day. Lets skip weekendsbecause its just 2 days out of 7 and some places make you work on weekends too.
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The extreme irrationality and emotionality of your position is demonstrated by the sentence which I bolded. You state that you "live for yourself" four hours a day - from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m., then you claim weekends don't count because "its (sic) just 2 days out of 7". And what does "some places" making people work on weekends too have to do with you, since you do not work on weekends? Two days out of seven is 29% of the total time available, and that just doesn't count?
Well, sorry, but you are not making any sense. Obviously you are miserable, but you seem to be making yourself miserable by your attitude. Have you looked for another job where the enjoyment factor would be higher, or do you get your kicks by whining and complaining?
Twenty years ago, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But as we continue to have increased forms of welfare and it is becoming chic to work under the table, it's easy to have a darn nice lifestyle working 15 hours a week under the table and living off social services. Add to that, "medical" marijuana is free to anyone who wants it.
Case in point- my brother in law. Great plumber. Started a very successful company before 28 and by 32 had a big house, hot tub, nice SUV, employees, wife and kids... but he worked his fanny off. I mean to the very bone. One day he fell from a ladder and broke a leg. He fully recovered, but in the 6 months he was down he learned to relax and smell the roses. Also, his employees started doing crappy work and he shut down the company. Fast forward 15 years and he is divorced, kids are grown and gone and he plumbs here and there under the table, gets every form of welfare known to mankind and get free weed daily and pretty much stays high. He stashes his plumbing money away for nice things and hasn't a care in the world.
We are becoming a nation of two types of people- the achievers and the non achievers. And with the current liberal view of redistribution of wealth, I see the middle class continuing to shrink.
The extreme irrationality and emotionality of your position is demonstrated by the sentence which I bolded. You state that you "live for yourself" four hours a day - from 6 p.m. to 10 p.m., then you claim weekends don't count because "its (sic) just 2 days out of 7". And what does "some places" making people work on weekends too have to do with you, since you do not work on weekends? Two days out of seven is 29% of the total time available, and that just doesn't count?
Well, sorry, but you are not making any sense. Obviously you are miserable, but you seem to be making yourself miserable by your attitude. Have you looked for another job where the enjoyment factor would be higher, or do you get your kicks by whining and complaining?
This. The majority of people work a day just like you and have weekends, holidays and vacation days to themselves. You will HAVE to work some sort of job if you want food and shelter, but if you are a single person, you can choose to work full time and have more money and comfort, but less free time or work part time and have less money and comfort, but more free time. It doesn't matter what you pick as long as you're happy. You could also look into shift jobs where you work longer hours, but have more days off. I did this for a while and it was great. I worked 3 or 4 12 hour shifts in a row and then I had 3 or 4 days off in a row. It was like a mini vacation every week! Nurses also work long shifts, but have more days off. Start looking around and find out what option will make you the happiest then work toward making that your realty.
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Originally Posted by BLAZER PROPHET
Twenty years ago, we wouldn't be having this discussion. But as we continue to have increased forms of welfare and it is becoming chic to work under the table, it's easy to have a darn nice lifestyle working 15 hours a week under the table and living off social services. Add to that, "medical" marijuana is free to anyone who wants it.
Case in point- my brother in law. Great plumber. Started a very successful company before 28 and by 32 had a big house, hot tub, nice SUV, employees, wife and kids... but he worked his fanny off. I mean to the very bone. One day he fell from a ladder and broke a leg. He fully recovered, but in the 6 months he was down he learned to relax and smell the roses. Also, his employees started doing crappy work and he shut down the company. Fast forward 15 years and he is divorced, kids are grown and gone and he plumbs here and there under the table, gets every form of welfare known to mankind and get free weed daily and pretty much stays high. He stashes his plumbing money away for nice things and hasn't a care in the world.
We are becoming a nation of two types of people- the achievers and the non achievers. And with the current liberal view of redistribution of wealth, I see the middle class continuing to shrink.
Lol sigh.... The middle class is disappearing as a direct result of conservative economics aka Reagonomics. They send all the money to the top 1%, keep wages low and leave very little for the rest of us.
I did work for 3 years full time for a decent pay, however i was like zombie at the end of the work day brain was exhausted and body sometimes too so most i'd do would be go grocery shopping or watch TV before going to sleep. Don't get me wrong i don't have any special condition. Back then i thought money is everything and there's no other way, i had money, but no time to enjoy my life.
Here's my usual working day its been same for 3 years.
6:30am - prepare for work
7:30am - i drive to work
8:00am - i started working
13:00 - hour lunch break
14:00 - work continues
5:00 or sometimes 5:30 - i drive home 6:00 - i am home finally can live for myself 10:00 - i go to sleep to wake up again at 6:30am.
So i live for myself from 6pm to 10pm - about 4 hours a day and its not even quality time because i am exhausted after working plus its dark outside already and same stuff every day. Lets skip weekends because its just 2 days out of 7 and some places make you work on weekends too.
I bet most say i am wrong and that they enjoy working talking to people help customers etc - glad it works for you, i am not the same what i do at work is to get money not getting anything else out of it other than my time wasted for something/someone for that paycheck rather than spent time for myself or be with my loved ones.
So if i care less about money i am fine with having my rent paid and having extra $500 monthly for other expenses does it make sense to don't work full time or at all and spend my life as i want?! I think yes its very important to have my life to me.
I am not in a cult or trying to convince that its the only right way for everyone, just trying to answer it for myself, have you ever thought similar or asked yourself same question, if so what was your conclusion?
99.9% probably will tell me that i need to work to get money otherwise i will not survive or my life wont be fulfilled without lots of money or think i am some weirdo romantic dreamer/philosopher or guy who just has nothing better to do than ask stupid questions to which he already knows the answer... Or how would you do if you get medical bill of 10,000 and what would you do if your credit score goes down, wish there was mute button for this people but i guess i'd have to hear them anyway.
Before you shoot standard answers and criticism, please take 1 minute and analyze this outside the box.
It sounds like your situation, summarized, is:
-You don't get any fulfillment from your job; it exhausts you too much to enjoy the rest of the day
-You pretend weekends don't exist
I suggest you look for a job that better suits you, to and acknowledge that weekends do in fact exist.
Sigh.... The middle class is disappearing as a direct result of conservative economics aka Reagonomics. They send all the money to the top 1%, keep wages low and leave very little for the rest of us.
Send all the money to the 1 percent? You mean don't take all the money from the 1 percent, right?
Furthermore, it boggles my mind why everyone feels entitled to be in the middle class. Did you get a respectable bachelor's degree and have pretty decent work ethic? Then you will likely be in the middle class.
If you are flipping burgers, why do you think you should be able to afford to raise a family of 4, have smart phones, and take a vacation or two a year? You provide virtually nothing to society and the fact that you are able to put a roof over your head and eat is probably too generous given what skills you offer the world.
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