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Hello all. First I really appreciate any opinions.
I am working in Texas, in long distance with my family (2 hours flight). I am also very very miserable at my job because of my manager. So I decide to quit and move to where my family are.
My employer is a fortune 200 and I am not sure if they have very strict employment policy ( how employees quit and how they are laid off). They know I am in a long distance relationship so I can use this legitimate reason to quit. But if I quit, I won't be able to claim unemployment, which would be financial burden for me ( I will actively look for job over there and have plans to take courses towards another degree but am not sure how long it will take).
The state I move to allows me to claim unemployment benefit because of family reasons but Texas does not. Since I work in Texas. it would not be an option for me
So can I talk to the company to lay me off? How can I approach them? I wont ask for any severance package from them.
If you get paid unemployment, the company gets charged via their premiums or directly (I am not sure). So, the money is not 'free' - you are basically asking them for money to leave your job.
Why would they? If they lay you off, they have to pay for your unemployment. You can find a new job or you can quit; don't expect the company to lay you off so you can have some income after you leave.
Hello all. First I really appreciate any opinions.
I am working in Texas, in long distance with my family (2 hours flight). I am also very very miserable at my job because of my manager. So I decide to quit and move to where my family are.
My employer is a fortune 200 and I am not sure if they have very strict employment policy ( how employees quit and how they are laid off). They know I am in a long distance relationship so I can use this legitimate reason to quit. But if I quit, I won't be able to claim unemployment, which would be financial burden for me ( I will actively look for job over there and have plans to take courses towards another degree but am not sure how long it will take).
The state I move to allows me to claim unemployment benefit because of family reasons but Texas does not. Since I work in Texas. it would not be an option for me
So can I talk to the company to lay me off? How can I approach them? I wont ask for any severance package from them.
Thanks for everyone's input.
no they won't lay you off.. they know you would get unemployment. Why not just look for a new job where you want to move to and save money up until then? It's really bad idea to try and get fired as well, since you could still end up not getting unemployment.
I can tell you, it's definitely negotiable if your manager is understandable. Employment is a 2 way street, big companies such as yours don't care as much about the hit on unemployment premiums. It's already budgeted.
The biggest obstacle is the amount of paper work that is involved in getting to that point. They need to see some type of reporting from your manager performance related to recommend letting you go for performance reasons. You can't mutually just part ways and still get benefits. That's consider quitting.
Ask your manager about performance expectations and then give them the idea that you're not capable of meeting that and then see if what they say you need to do. Lead them to believe that you're not able to comply then they will have to write you down for that and recommend you for performance terminations in the next quarterly review.
Layoff is different from you resigning or the employer firing you.
Usually, it means the position has been eliminated for business reasons so , being a F200 company, they will have strict criteria to use when laying off people to protect themselves legally.
IMO, you'll need to resign.
I can tell you, it's definitely negotiable if your manager is understandable. Employment is a 2 way street, big companies such as yours don't care as much about the hit on unemployment premiums. It's already budgeted.
The biggest obstacle is the amount of paper work that is involved in getting to that point. They need to see some type of reporting from your manager performance related to recommend letting you go for performance reasons. You can't mutually just part ways and still get benefits. That's consider quitting.
Ask your manager about performance expectations and then give them the idea that you're not capable of meeting that and then see if what they say you need to do. Lead them to believe that you're not able to comply then they will have to write you down for that and recommend you for performance terminations in the next quarterly review.
And then you get to explain to your next perspective employer that you are a capable employee regardless of what you evaluations say, because you were just gaming the system in order to collect unemployment.
And then you get to explain to your next perspective employer that you are a capable employee regardless of what you evaluations say, because you were just gaming the system in order to collect unemployment.
It won't look good if another employer does their background checks and gives a score. Most hiring managers don't look that deep, they're only looking for flags such as patterns of job changes in comparison to the industry and demand. Some positions that are in demand, I can tell you an employer don't even bother with background they just need references and the person passes interviews.
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