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Old 02-14-2016, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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^^^^this! Do it!
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Old 02-15-2016, 03:40 AM
 
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I do executive assistant duties. There are 2 other people who work in the office who get $17/hr and have less duties than I do. If your boss gives 401k only to the people who he coached in high school and paid vacation time to them without being there a full year, I think that it is a great possibility that I am getting screwed over...
Then, what is the problem? Either put up and shut up because it is close and you only have one car, OR start looking for a new job.
Nepotism is alive and well at your {HIS} company.

YOu COULD try to inform him that the job posting on CL stated $12/hr and you will report him to the labor board of your state for false posting a job, but you definitely will raise his ire and he will find some reason to Fire you, and anymore a firing doesn't appeal to new prospective employers.

You are also correct, that you should not know or discuss wages with anyone as it raises the exact issues you are complaining about. If raises were handed out at a rate of $1./hr more per year of service, and the $17/h person has worked there 15 years, you have no right as a newbie with little/no experience to demand or command that wage!!!
AND your college? well it may not be required, and experience can trump college! Loyalty also palys a part into it. If they were there and helped him start/build his business, he may reward them for it with better wages.

THis is not a reflection directly aimed at you specifically, because it applies to so many: I am amazed, and it never ceases to amaze me, how many "newbies" expect the higher wages of years of experienced/educated workers!!
There was one poster on here who just graduated college, and is in his first year of accounting and complains of making only about $30k, HE wants $100k. He noted that his position in his area usually pays $40-50K but in order to get those jobs they wanted 5 years experience, which he doesn't have. AND the $100k jobs require more. Sheesh!
WHen people are starting out nowadays, they figure they should command the pay of a 10 year veteran with an MBA degree, or at least what a CEO makes! IT JUST AIN'T SO! It doesn't work that way! Sheesh!

SO, take heart, and look for another job if you think you can get more.
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Old 02-15-2016, 07:06 AM
 
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You are also correct, that you should not know or discuss wages with anyone as it raises the exact issues you are complaining about. If raises were handed out at a rate of $1./hr more per year of service, and the $17/h person has worked there 15 years, you have no right as a newbie with little/no experience to demand or command that wage!!!
AND your college? well it may not be required, and experience can trump college! Loyalty also palys a part into it. If they were there and helped him start/build his business, he may reward them for it with better wages.

THis is not a reflection directly aimed at you specifically, because it applies to so many: I am amazed, and it never ceases to amaze me, how many "newbies" expect the higher wages of years of experienced/educated workers!!
There was one poster on here who just graduated college, and is in his first year of accounting and complains of making only about $30k, HE wants $100k. He noted that his position in his area usually pays $40-50K but in order to get those jobs they wanted 5 years experience, which he doesn't have. AND the $100k jobs require more. Sheesh!
WHen people are starting out nowadays, they figure they should command the pay of a 10 year veteran with an MBA degree, or at least what a CEO makes! IT JUST AIN'T SO! It doesn't work that way! Sheesh!

SO, take heart, and look for another job if you think you can get more.
The person that earns $17/hr has been there only 3 months and was a stay at home mom with little to no office experience. He hired her because they are friends outside of work before he even hired her. They hang out and drink.

I'm not expecting a ridiculous amount of money like that. I'm being realistic. I only make about a little over $16k after taxes. I know I'm worth more than just $16k. I would gladly take that $30k that gentleman makes, and I could probably earn that much in reality.

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Old 02-15-2016, 07:15 AM
 
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Unfortunately, cronyism is a significant part of your boss' business model. If you want a raise, you are probably going to have to leave.
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Old 02-15-2016, 07:16 AM
 
Location: broke leftist craphole Illizuela
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The only way to remedy being underpaid nowadays is to jump companies. Most companies will never give more than a 3-5% raise unless you get a big promotion. You are being strung along and taken advantage of and it will not ever change as long as you are there.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Hampton Roads
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I do executive assistant duties. There are 2 other people who work in the office who get $17/hr and have less duties than I do. If your boss gives 401k only to the people who he coached in high school and paid vacation time to them without being there a full year, I think that it is a great possibility that I am getting screwed over...
What are your duties?
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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What are your duties?

I do a variety of tasks. Purchase orders, create bank deposits, conduct weekly and monthly sales reports, daily operation reports, billing, payroll, posting payments, creating memos, manage price changes, schedule deliveries, setting up new accounts, training new employees, data entry, and vendor/driver/customer communications.
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Old 02-15-2016, 09:41 AM
 
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Your boss is stringing you along about a raise, hiring undocumented immigrants and employing his unqualified friends at higher rates of pay. In addition, he's prohibiting his employees from discussing their salaries, which in some situations, at least, is a violation of the law. This is not a well-run outfit. The only thing you'll get from this job is really basic stuff to put on your resume. That's it.
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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I do executive assistant duties. There are 2 other people who work in the office who get $17/hr and have less duties than I do. If your boss gives 401k only to the people who he coached in high school and paid vacation time to them without being there a full year, I think that it is a great possibility that I am getting screwed over...
Average salaries is completely meaningless once you understand that different sized companies pay VASTLY different salaries. An executive assistant working for a Senior Director or VP (with 150 people in their organization) at a Fortune 500 company is going to make more than someone with the same title at a small business. So my suggestion is that you don't dwell on that, despite advice you may see here.

With regards to others with higher pay and no degree, the owner is probably paying them more because that's what is will take to keep them as employees. Because of your degree, you likely have more options and the boss knows that you WILL be leaving, even if he paid you the $12/hr that was originally advertised. The fact that you took the job at $10/hr tells the boss that you probably didn't have many options that fit into your plan (close to home/1 car/etc). He knows that as soon as your situation improves, you're going to be leaving. He has no need to pay you more.

All of this aside, I agree that it sucks. I was once not given a job at a new Radio Shack that was opening. I was still in school and I had a chance to meet the other guys that got jobs over me. None of them had even close to my experience with all things digital, computers, circuits, audio, video, etc. The one thing that they had in common? No college education and limited future careers.

Keep you head up and start applying for other jobs.

Good luck!
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Old 02-15-2016, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Hampton Roads
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Average salaries is completely meaningless once you understand that different sized companies pay VASTLY different salaries. An executive assistant working for a Senior Director or VP (with 150 people in their organization) at a Fortune 500 company is going to make more than someone with the same title at a small business. So my suggestion is that you don't dwell on that, despite advice you may see here.

Reading the job duties to me sounds a lot more like an administrative assistant than an executive assistant and it is probably just due to being a smaller company that they have one admin who takes on these roles. A lot of the executive assistants I have met help to make decisions for the executive's behalf, acts as his right hand man almost.

If you feel underpaid, then look outside of the company you work at and find a place willing to pay you more. Sometimes, it is that simple.
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