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Old 05-17-2016, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Seattle Area
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I think one guy pimps his wife out to the upper. I really do.
Is she hot?
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:40 AM
 
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I guess there are a couple of lessons but the one that comes to mind is: you happily took the job and agreed to work for a specified salary. Why does what someone else makes cause you to feel different about your own job?

I do get the unfairness of it, from your perspective. But I'd try to be content with what you have, at least until you get a better job offer. You could always do the research on tax brackets, etc, and see how you'd be affected... maybe you can donate to charity and walk away with more at the end of the year. Anyway, peace.
If you knew the stuff one of my coworkers gets away with daily you'd be upset too. But life's not fair right

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If they're making 8K more a year, that's pretty minor difference.

I have techs who make $300 more a month than I do and I'd never want their jobs with what they have to do for it.
It's not a huge difference but I'd be pretty happy with it right now.

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OP you mentioned that you were there longer...



Sometimes pay scales shift. What the company pays for your position today may not be what they paid for it 1 year ago... 5 years ago... etc. If the market demands a higher pay for that position, it may be required to get new talent in the door. You locked in at one rate, they locked in at another. It's likely that someone hiring in after them in a year or two may hire in at a higher rate. My wife hired in at $30k as a Project Control Analyst in 2005. The low end of the pay scale for that position in her company now starts in the $45k-$50k range. She had people hire in after her who made $10-$15k more than her right out of the gate. It happens.


I managed an Aerospace production facility in my last job and had 23 people working under me. 3 of those people made about $10k a year more than me. We had similar jobs in regards to management of employees. They were my supervisors. The difference is that they also did part of the fabrication and were specialized in specific areas of fabrication for our particular product.


I really never concerned myself with what someone else makes. If I want to make more, I work harder and make sure that the right people notice my work. If I don't get promoted there... I find another company who will hire me on for an increase in salary. Take care of yourself and let them manage their situations.
Yeah I'm learning this now. All I can do is keep applying for other jobs. I won't bother saying anything to my supervisor but if my coworkers bring it up again I may not ignore it. Remember I didn't ask about salaries. One day they both said they got paid more than me and I never told them my salary.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:52 AM
 
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I think is funny that people hate socialism
but when they hear somebody gets paid more than them, they think "Everybody should get paid the same"
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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Yeah I'm learning this now. All I can do is keep applying for other jobs. I won't bother saying anything to my supervisor but if my coworkers bring it up again I may not ignore it. Remember I didn't ask about salaries. One day they both said they got paid more than me and I never told them my salary.
Then how do you KNOW they're making more? Did they show you their paychecks? I make $45K a year, now if you demanded proof, that's where you'd find out I don't....
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:58 PM
 
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There is a wide range in salary "roles". There's a lot of variables. That's life. A Senior Engineer at my place can make anywhere from $75K to $110 K at my place (just guessing here... but you get the point. The way to get a bump is to change jobs.
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Huntsville
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Then how do you KNOW they're making more? Did they show you their paychecks? I make $45K a year, now if you demanded proof, that's where you'd find out I don't....


The more important question here is.... how do they know what YOU make?






Folks can guess about what I make all day long and I'll just smile. Doesn't mean they actually know.
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Kaliforneea
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Remember I didn't ask about salaries. One day they both said they got paid more than me and I never told them my salary.
consider: how do you know they are telling you the truth? From CEOs hiding their compensation until SEC disclosures are required, to rappers holding up fistfuls of dollar bills for social media posts, to immediate peers trying to one-up you, many people are motivated to lie about how much money they got.


For those who are interested in how salary affects envy and competition in the workplace,
I'll recommend a couple of books. You can read about Steve Jobs days at NeXT: he paid everyone who was hired in the first-round $75K/yr, and everybody after 1990 $50K/yr

source:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeXT#C..._and_community

Another, with a fascinating study of the effect of "shallow hierarchy":
'Almost Perfect' - the story of the rise and fall of WordPerfect Corporation by W. E. Peterson
Almost Perfect by W. E. Pete Peterson The Rise and Fall of WordPerfect Corporation
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Old 05-17-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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^I agree people can lie but why just bring it up when I didn't even ask :/

And yes I wondered how they even knew my salary. Anyway I'm over it.
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Old 05-17-2016, 02:27 PM
 
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^I agree people can lie but why just bring it up when I didn't even ask :/

And yes I wondered how they even knew my salary. Anyway I'm over it.
To mess with you
it obviously worked
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Old 05-17-2016, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Living on the Coast in Oxnard CA
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Where I work it depends when you may have been hired.

Example:

Back between 2000 and 2010 I would say, we did not have the number of RN's we needed. Incomes for RN's kept increasing, sign on bonus, bonus if you stay another year. Starting baseline pay was around $33 after 6 months it went to $36 an hour. A year out you could be making $45 an hour.

Around 2011 or so things changed. New RN's were being offered $22 an hour.

Bonus pay ended as well.

Some departments offered higher pay if an RN moved to that department. One RN I know had thought of moving and waited. When she decided to switch departments she found out that the pay was no longer premium. She would have made $45 an hour to switch departments just one month earlier. She works with RN's that had made the switch that are getting paid the higher rate. She is getting only $36 or so an hour.

Things have started to go back to the way they were. RN's are once again starting at $33 an hour. We have some that are still being paid the low end. To jump back up they would need to change departments or go into another discipline within nursing. We were one of the last California hospitals offering a yearly retention bonus program. That is still no longer a part of our income package.

I am not one that believes that everyone has to be paid the same. One of the problems I have with our hospitals system for income raises is that everyone gets the same increase. The hardest working people down to those that hardly do anything, everyone gets the same increase. It does not breed competition. In fact I have heard from a few people that why should they work hard because someone not working as hard will still get the same increase.
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