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Old 08-11-2016, 12:51 AM
 
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It seems as if it's being marketed as such. Everywhere I see ads for "coding boot camps" or crash courses to teach someone who is tired at working at Mickey D's to learn to code. It's absolutely not for everyone though.
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Old 08-11-2016, 12:57 AM
 
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A CS degree should require a double degree in Math, like it used to be.

I don't know the intricacies of plumbing, so my analogy will suck, but having a plumber rig up all the pipes in a house without knowing the drop in pressure per ft of certain diameter pipe sounds like a good way to have showers that dribble.
On of the reasons we have such bloated software these days and ever expanding hardware requirements is that people don't have the knowledge of optimization of algorithms for specific hardware. Then it takes tons of patching to make it work the way it should
Not everyone has the need for any degree when it comes to this type of work.
My Mother started her career as a Data Input Operator and retired as a Senior Programing Analyst, all
self taught, no school, no degree, no apprenticeship.......
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Old 08-11-2016, 03:47 AM
 
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It seems as if it's being marketed as such. Everywhere I see ads for "coding boot camps" or crash courses to teach someone who is tired at working at Mickey D's to learn to code. It's absolutely not for everyone though.
There is more than enough books, online courses, free user group meetings, YouTube videos, not to mention the software itself is free, that paying $8K or whatever it is for a coding bootcamp isn't necessary. If the only way someone is going to get through the material is pay a bunch of money and be forced to do it, then I seriously doubt they have a passion for it. If you don't have a passion for it, you are going to be absolutely miserable doing the real work when it comes time to it. I say the same for those who went through a traditional college majoring in CS simply because their parents or a guidance counselor talked them into it.

What I recommend for someone to do is at least buy a book on computer programming and learn to write a program about something that interests them personally. It could just be getting the examples in the book to work. The thing is, if you don't find any of this interesting, then don't go into the field and don't sign up for the so-called programming bootcamps.
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Old 08-11-2016, 03:51 AM
 
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Not everyone has the need for any degree when it comes to this type of work.
My Mother started her career as a Data Input Operator and retired as a Senior Programing Analyst, all
self taught, no school, no degree, no apprenticeship.......
Some of the better lead developers I've known on large projects and staffers at colleges don't have any college themselves either. I'm all for getting a college degree, but people are mistaken to believe that is the end of their efforts and it is the only effort they need to make. Just to get the degree, and that will get them a job to be set for life. It doesn't work that way. I'm sure your Mother had a passion for doing this and spent her own time and resources learning what she needed to do, because that's the sign of a true professional. These people who continue to post asking what degree they should get that leads to a job don't understand the degree is only one part of the requirements.
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Old 08-11-2016, 04:34 AM
 
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Are these coding jobs here to stay? With the global economy and all what is the chance of these jobs going overseas to places like india? I remember back 10 years ago it was all "IT" and now IT guys are making like $12-$15 an hour. I was offered a job learing code but was worrying about getting invested.
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Old 08-11-2016, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Are these coding jobs here to stay? With the global economy and all what is the chance of these jobs going overseas to places like india? I remember back 10 years ago it was all "IT" and now IT guys are making like $12-$15 an hour. I was offered a job learing code but was worrying about getting invested.
If they're making $12-$15 they're probably level 1 helpdesk or something along those lines. Coding and software development wouldn't pay those type of rates.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:16 PM
 
Location: New York
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Are these coding jobs here to stay? With the global economy and all what is the chance of these jobs going overseas to places like india? I remember back 10 years ago it was all "IT" and now IT guys are making like $12-$15 an hour. I was offered a job learing code but was worrying about getting invested.
"IT" is a really vague term from anything to your level 1 tech support helpdesk all the way up to the Managing Director. So yes, the payscale and job security will vary depending on where you choose to hang your hat.
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Old 08-11-2016, 05:08 PM
 
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I gotcha! Good explanation
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