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Old 08-12-2016, 12:46 PM
 
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Quit, be fired, or eventually laid off?

So I am working a job and am currently in the midst of a 90-day probation at the end of which my employer will make the decision whether to keep me on permanently or let me go. I have until October 28 for that decision. Basically, they came to me with a letter stating that they are going to make me permanent but first I have to serve the 90-day probationary period.

I do not like the job because multiple times per day someone comes to me pointing out some mistake I made. I don't do well with criticism, especially since it is usually coming from people who shouldn't be criticizing anyone.

For instance, this one lady comes to me today because I had a note in my work to send it to one of my superiors and I used the person's maiden name when they recently got married and thus have a different last name in my work that she somehow came across. Well, she is gone for at least 1-2 days per week for what she calls "migraines" so when she came to me I felt like saying, "Surprised you even know the people that work here when you're gone all the time." Who is she to criticize when she can't be bothered to ever show up for an entire week straight. When she is at work, she complains about having to do work.

Well, to the point of the thread, should I quit my job now, wait until the end of the probation and hope they lay me off, or purposefully start making even more errors in the hopes they fire me for work performance, generally something that allows collecting UI?
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Old 08-12-2016, 12:57 PM
 
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Wait it out. Save as much money as you can, so when they lay you off you have that extra money to coast for a while
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Old 08-12-2016, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Yakima yes, an apartment!
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Quit, be fired, or eventually laid off?

So I am working a job and am currently in the midst of a 90-day probation at the end of which my employer will make the decision whether to keep me on permanently or let me go. I have until October 28 for that decision. Basically, they came to me with a letter stating that they are going to make me permanent but first I have to serve the 90-day probationary period.

Is this the same job you complained about a co-worker who pointed out the disappearances of another worker and was told to MYOB or have you gotten another one?
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Old 08-12-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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Quit means you decided to leave the employment for your own reasons. There is generally no negative connotation attached so long as you can explain why if asked. You most likely will not be eligible for unemployment benefits when you quit unless you can establish just cause.

Fired means the company got rid of you for whatever reason they give. Terminations come in all shapes and sizes so a person terminated due to misconduct shouldn't expect anything as they screwed up. A person terminated for inability despite their best efforts usually can explain it away since all employers know not everyone is a good fit or can work to the companies satisfaction. Based on the reason for termination, you may or may not have any issues arise from it. Also based on the reasons, you may also be entitled to unemployment benefits.

Layoff is simply a company no longer has work for you. It could be they are financially strap. It could be they changed directions. It could be an office closing. No employer holds layoffs against an applicant. You are almost always eligible for unemployment benefits if it's actually a layoff.

Which one is best is something only you can decide based on your situation and circumstances.
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Old 08-12-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Quit, Laid off, Fired w/reason that is order from good to worst. You never want to be fired for reason which makes it obvious that you've done something flagrantly wrong. Once upon a time when unions were popular it didn't matter since getting fired was very difficult so companies tries to make your life miserable that you just want to quit.
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Old 08-12-2016, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Planet Woof
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Whatever works for you. Sounds like you're not happy there anyway.
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Old 08-12-2016, 10:58 PM
 
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Quit, be fired, or eventually laid off?

So I am working a job and am currently in the midst of a 90-day probation at the end of which my employer will make the decision whether to keep me on permanently or let me go. I have until October 28 for that decision. Basically, they came to me with a letter stating that they are going to make me permanent but first I have to serve the 90-day probationary period.

I do not like the job because multiple times per day someone comes to me pointing out some mistake I made. I don't do well with criticism, especially since it is usually coming from people who shouldn't be criticizing anyone.

For instance, this one lady comes to me today because I had a note in my work to send it to one of my superiors and I used the person's maiden name when they recently got married and thus have a different last name in my work that she somehow came across. Well, she is gone for at least 1-2 days per week for what she calls "migraines" so when she came to me I felt like saying, "Surprised you even know the people that work here when you're gone all the time." Who is she to criticize when she can't be bothered to ever show up for an entire week straight. When she is at work, she complains about having to do work.

Well, to the point of the thread, should I quit my job now, wait until the end of the probation and hope they lay me off, or purposefully start making even more errors in the hopes they fire me for work performance, generally something that allows collecting UI?


Quit with another job lined up

Being fired or laid off in 2016 is not the situation you want to be in because


Fired-"you don't get UC right away which means no income"

Laid off-"UC is only 6 months without any extensions which means you are forced to accept any job"



So I would be hoping they make me permanent so I can continue getting a cash flow
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Old 08-12-2016, 11:22 PM
 
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Is it better to Quit on your terms or get fired?

Quit or wait to get fired?

Quit before fired? Tough situation

Forbes Welcome

Thinking of quitting your job? Try getting fired instead - CNET

Also, based on the OP's job history of getting fired multiple times in a relatively short time period prior to this latest incident, I respectfully suggest that the OP work on the underlying issues which are causing his job problems.

For Quality experts, I believe it's called root cause analysis. Without fixing the very root cause of what's causing him to get fired and have issues adapting to the work environment, he will continue to go through the same thing year after year. And then it's now become an even bigger problem because his job history is riddled with multiple stints at jobs.
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:00 AM
 
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Is it better to Quit on your terms or get fired?

Also, based on the OP's job history of getting fired multiple times in a relatively short time period prior to this latest incident, I respectfully suggest that the OP work on the underlying issues which are causing his job problems.

For Quality experts, I believe it's called root cause analysis. Without fixing the very root cause of what's causing him to get fired and have issues adapting to the work environment, he will continue to go through the same thing year after year. And then it's now become an even bigger problem because his job history is riddled with multiple stints at jobs.
While I don't necessarily disagree with the above because I do recognize the issue I have, I don't believe I've had really that many different jobs. I'm 31 and am on the 5th job in my lifetime. Is that really considered a lot?

I had the same job from high school through college, had a 1-year temp job where I wasn't fired but let go at the end of the year right after college and during the horrible mid-to-late 2000's economy, another job where I was fired after 4 months (but got UI as it was job performance-related), a different job I had before and after the job I got fired from which I subsequently quit on good terms to take the job I currently have. I assume since I left on good terms I could go back to this job if there are openings, not that I necessarily would want to but the option exists.

I'd imagine some people are actually happy at their jobs. I want to find that. I'm guessing job happiness has to do a combination of who the happy people work with and the job aligning with their skills and interests. I can't imagine anyone actually being interested in the job I do to the point that they would enjoy it simply because it is incredibly repetitive. Couple that with a coworker base that is uniformly older than me by decades with few exceptions, and work becomes a lonely place. I can't imagine working in such a place for the next 30 years or more until I retire.
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Old 08-13-2016, 01:21 AM
 
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Quit, be fired, or eventually laid off?

So I am working a job and am currently in the midst of a 90-day probation at the end of which my employer will make the decision whether to keep me on permanently or let me go. I have until October 28 for that decision. Basically, they came to me with a letter stating that they are going to make me permanent but first I have to serve the 90-day probationary period.

I do not like the job because multiple times per day someone comes to me pointing out some mistake I made. I don't do well with criticism, especially since it is usually coming from people who shouldn't be criticizing anyone.

For instance, this one lady comes to me today because I had a note in my work to send it to one of my superiors and I used the person's maiden name when they recently got married and thus have a different last name in my work that she somehow came across. Well, she is gone for at least 1-2 days per week for what she calls "migraines" so when she came to me I felt like saying, "Surprised you even know the people that work here when you're gone all the time." Who is she to criticize when she can't be bothered to ever show up for an entire week straight. When she is at work, she complains about having to do work.

Well, to the point of the thread, should I quit my job now, wait until the end of the probation and hope they lay me off, or purposefully start making even more errors in the hopes they fire me for work performance, generally something that allows collecting UI?
If you don't like the job find another one, what's the big deal? Perhaps you also need to be more diligent in what you do if you make multiple mistakes daily and you get annoyed when corrected.
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