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It's very hard to lie about 18 years of prior management experience. All the executives at his current company would have contacts that worked at the prior company in the last 18 year.
He might get away with lying, if he went to a mom and pop shop. At a Fortune 500 company, it's unlikely. Pepsico execs may have worked at Coke, during the same time period or have friends that still work there.
I came across the same issue even as a non-management employee.. In my current job, 2 of the interviewing members on the panel knew my boss at the former company. They had worked together for 2-3 years at another company.
In the prior job, the VP knew all 3 of my references, my former managers. She had worked with all three of them at a Fortune 500 company, prior to her current role. She called up one of them, who vouched for me. I got the job offer, the next day.
It's a small world, when you deal with management.
Last edited by move4ward; 02-03-2017 at 12:16 PM..
Yeah lying is not cool, but he has to have some competency and skills to be able to be promoted. It depends on the job too. Things like graphic design, food services, tourism, and retail, he can get a pass since it more about the doing the job itself. But things that require certifications and credentials, he would get fired immediately.
I've bumped into several completely fabricated resumes over the years.
I had one a long time ago who claimed to have worked 5 years as a 'C' programmer. Something smelled fishy. I handed him a whiteboard marker and asked him to write a program that prints "Hello World". This is page 1 of any 'C' programming book. The guy couldn't do it.
More recently, I've bumped into a funky cultural issue where the Indian engineers would prep their buddies to fake their way through the job interview. Fake resume claiming they worked on projects that would pertain to what we were hiring for. Again, I managed to sniff them out but that was usually after several other people had interviewed them and saw no problem.
Tons of people are out there who didn't quite graduate. I don't care about that. I care about their last 5 years of work history. My tech industry sector is small enough that I can pretty much always do a backdoor reference check on any candidate. Most of them check out but you encounter the occasional one where you get a "No. They never worked on that project. They were doing xxxx." where xxxx had nothing at all to do with what we were hiring for.
Yeah lying is not cool, but he has to have some competency and skills to be able to be promoted. It depends on the job too. Things like graphic design, food services, tourism, and retail, he can get a pass since it more about the doing the job itself. But things that require certifications and credentials, he would get fired immediately.
Or maybe he has 'something' on his higher up that forces him or her to cover for him. He may have even been hired under that same blackmail situation.
If a background check is gone it will show what schools you attended and degrees earned. It will also show employer history. With that said, if an employer does a background check these days you really can't lie. 10 years ago... Probably. If the employee had done well with no attendance issues or any other type of problems I would think after 10 years of employment they might overlook this with a warning in his file. If something else happens then they let him go. However some employers may let him go right away for lying on an application.
I mean, maybe it varies by company but ... when I moved to my current company 11 years ago, my background was checked under a microscope. I needed personal and professional references, in addition to the work, education, credit and other histories. And they wanted everything down to the month that I met a person. One reference, I was in a panic because I knew what year we had met, but I couldn't remember the exact month. Believe me, they checked all of this (my reference told me afterwards). I obviously passed, but I no way would anyone have been able to get away with lying about something in their background 10 years ago at my company, particularly on something so huge.
If an employer decides to terminate an employee one approach is to go back to their application and verify everything claimed as an applicant. If any material misstatements are found that would have resulted in a no-hire you have no recourse, you are a goner.
I know quite a few people who are just a few classes short of a degree. Many college allow people who are close to walk and go through with the ceremony but not actually issue the degree and I think once that's done, and a job is started, going back to college isn't a priority.
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