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Old 05-19-2017, 08:40 AM
 
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As most of you, I dislike the education system for being out of touch with employers. The skills it offers are mundane, obscure, and nonsensical. No one treats students seriously and for good reason.

Not only do colleges downplay the demands of real-life work, but it goes worse, as they invite fantasy. Become self-employed! Write a book and get famous! Build a start-up! Study art!

And it's not just that. Young adults wake up and discover they were never taught about basic things: nutrition, cleaning, sex, grooming. There's nothing for them really, except salespeople who just want a piece of them.

At this point, would it be fair to say that employers are not only being ignored, but harmed by a redundant education system that can dismiss anything it wants because it likes to?

What's the point in an education system, when the real output is a worker, and it doesn't teach you about work?
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:43 AM
 
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Well, since none of your premise is true, then there's really not much that can be said for the conclusion.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:31 AM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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The colleges that my kids went to, and those where my recent graduate employees went, did a good job of preparing them for their work. I do think the high schools could do better in helping students choose a suitable major that will not only help them get a job, but keep it, they should have an aptitude for and interest in the work. That's one reason why my employer is doing a (paid) high school internship program, this summer over 100 local students will be working here.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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As most of you, I dislike the education system for being out of touch with employers. The skills it offers are mundane, obscure, and nonsensical. No one treats students seriously and for good reason.

Not only do colleges downplay the demands of real-life work, but it goes worse, as they invite fantasy. Become self-employed! Write a book and get famous! Build a start-up! Study art!

And it's not just that. Young adults wake up and discover they were never taught about basic things: nutrition, cleaning, sex, grooming. There's nothing for them really, except salespeople who just want a piece of them.

At this point, would it be fair to say that employers are not only being ignored, but harmed by a redundant education system that can dismiss anything it wants because it likes to?

What's the point in an education system, when the real output is a worker, and it doesn't teach you about work?
Your screen name is applicable because this tirade is just dumb. The education system did not fail you, you failed yourself, man-up and stop deflecting blame.
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Old 05-19-2017, 10:49 AM
 
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As most of you, I dislike the education system for being out of touch with employers. The skills it offers are mundane, obscure, and nonsensical. No one treats students seriously and for good reason.

Not only do colleges downplay the demands of real-life work, but it goes worse, as they invite fantasy. Become self-employed! Write a book and get famous! Build a start-up! Study art!

And it's not just that. Young adults wake up and discover they were never taught about basic things: nutrition, cleaning, sex, grooming. There's nothing for them really, except salespeople who just want a piece of them.

At this point, would it be fair to say that employers are not only being ignored, but harmed by a redundant education system that can dismiss anything it wants because it likes to?

What's the point in an education system, when the real output is a worker, and it doesn't teach you about work?
Are you perhaps on the spectrum? I have found that some people who are, and left school unprepared socially for the world, somehow expected that school would teach those skills, not realizing they are innate for most of us and we can learn simply from being among people (while others need it actually taught to them). If it's not this, then I don't really know what you're talking about. School has no place teaching people how to clean and other life skills. Again, this sounds like something only someone with social communication disorders would need to be taught about.
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Old 05-19-2017, 05:43 PM
 
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As most of you, I dislike the education system for being out of touch with employers. The skills it offers are mundane, obscure, and nonsensical. No one treats students seriously and for good reason.
Yes, all of those skills like calculus, statistics, reading comprehension, writing ability, an understanding of our culture, history and political system, mechanical engineering, cinematography, design, whatever. None of those skills are ever applicable to any profession obviously.

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Not only do colleges downplay the demands of real-life work, but it goes worse, as they invite fantasy. Become self-employed! Write a book and get famous! Build a start-up! Study art!
Yes, colleges never impose deadlines, understanding of process and bureaucracy, completely ignore effort and meritocracy. If only they had a system of ranking and communicating success or failure.

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And it's not just that. Young adults wake up and discover they were never taught about basic things: nutrition, cleaning, sex, grooming. There's nothing for them really, except salespeople who just want a piece of them.
College is supposed to tell you how to brush your teeth? I don't know about you, but I learned quite a bit about sex in college.

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At this point, would it be fair to say that employers are not only being ignored, but harmed by a redundant education system that can dismiss anything it wants because it likes to?
Poor employers. They are being ignored so completely that I haven't seen any job postings requiring a college degree in a while. I guess they universally agree that a college education is pointless.

I don't think that you understand the meaning of redundant. You might want to use a dictionary.

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What's the point in an education system, when the real output is a worker, and it doesn't teach you about work?
The real output is an educated person.
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Old 06-20-2017, 09:47 PM
 
Location: 89434
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Become self-employed! Write a book and get famous! Build a start-up! Study art!
The public school system, and colleges don't teach that stuff. Young people are expected to have an education, and show up at a 9-5 job. That's about it.
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