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Old 01-21-2018, 02:06 AM
 
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I'm not sure they are more prone to suicide. They are, however, more prone to fame, which makes their suicides newsworthy. When a doctor, cop, stock broker, or plumber kills him or herself, it doesn't make the headlines. Could it be that this makes musicians and other performers appear to be more likely to do it - the fact that when they do, everyone knows? Just a thought...
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Old 01-21-2018, 02:19 AM
 
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Perhaps nothing? Perhaps

Yet. Depression. Suicide. Why?
Some basic truths in life.
People with strong faith in something greater than their own ego have much lower incidences of suicide. Religion helps.
Atheists suffer from higher rates and ,oddly, autism too. Anyone who cannot imagine anything in the universe bigger than their own ego is terminally screwed.

Suicide is the single most selfish thing anyone can commit, they aren't victims, they dont give a crap about about the wreckage they cause to others left behind. The facts are ugly but no-one said it had to be pretty.

So you can conclude they are very sick.
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Old 01-21-2018, 05:46 AM
 
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very artistic people throughout history seem to be more prone to having mental illness than the rest of us so called normal folks. perhaps, genetically speaking, mental illness is the curse and blessing of being an exceptionally creative person.
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Old 01-21-2018, 05:51 AM
 
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First, rock stars are subject to alcohol and drug abuse. That often leads to depression and suicide. Second, maybe it's not such a great life. Having to tour, not even getting to see the cities they go to. Even the attention from the fans might get to be too much.
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Old 01-21-2018, 07:25 AM
 
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I also think that some entertainers have deep needs and insecurities and that's what drives them to have to get up in front of thousands of people in the first place. They crave and need that level of attention, but sooner or later, the crowds go home and they are left with themselves.

I don't know if that's the specific case in any of the three people the OP mentioned.
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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First, rock stars are subject to alcohol and drug abuse. That often leads to depression and suicide. Second, maybe it's not such a great life. Having to tour, not even getting to see the cities they go to. Even the attention from the fans might get to be too much.
This!

I would also add if they have a family their never home to be part of it. That could contribute to depression. At any rate, it’s the life and work they choose. They could quit at any time if their not happy!
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:20 AM
 
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O'Riordan was bi-polar. Higher risk of suicide. Chester was a victim of childhood sexual molestation. Higher risk of suicide. You're really stretching.
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:26 AM
 
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Suicide is the single most selfish thing anyone can commit, they aren't victims, they dont give a crap about about the wreckage they cause to others left behind. The facts are ugly but no-one said it had to be pretty.

So you can conclude they are very sick.

Suicide is not chosen; it happens when pain exceeds
resources for coping with pain.

https://metanoia.org/suicide/
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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I'm not sure they are more prone to suicide. They are, however, more prone to fame, which makes their suicides newsworthy. When a doctor, cop, stock broker, or plumber kills him or herself, it doesn't make the headlines. Could it be that this makes musicians and other performers appear to be more likely to do it - the fact that when they do, everyone knows? Just a thought...
Agreed in large measure with this. There are depressed or otherwise mentally ill people to be found in any number of professions. Am thinking it’s the personal issue rather than the profession.
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Old 01-21-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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very artistic people throughout history seem to be more prone to having mental illness than the rest of us so called normal folks. perhaps, genetically speaking, mental illness is the curse and blessing of being an exceptionally creative person.
Not so sure this is true. Being a successful creative person involves a tremendous amount of hard work at one’s craft as well as personal networking, both of which mental illness would impair. For every tortured Van Gogh, there are several Matisses and Gaugins who may have had their share of neuroses but weren’t severely mentally ill. Gaugin and Van Gogh in fact shared a flat for a while until the former couldn’t tolerate the latter anymore. In fact, I’m hard pressed to think of any composer other than Schumann who could legitimately be considered mentally ill instead of just neurotic (though that excludes folks like Hugo Wolf who likely had an organic cause to his problems, likely syphillis in his case).
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