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I was looking over job postings and there's a college near my house that i've seen a few openings at that I'd be interested in. Everytime I go to apply I am asked to enter in 3 references:
Please list your references (not related to you) who can verify your work habits and experience.
3 References Pending:
They want 3. I'm sorry but this seems weird? I'll give you my reference info at the end of the process when you're about to hire me. I mean the form doesn't just ask for names, it asks for email and phone # and wont let you submit the application unless you complete this info. This is a small no named college, i've applied to harvard and mit jobs where they dont ask this.
What gives? why would they require this info so soon?
It doesn't work that way. References are an important part of the hiring process. As a candidate you should be happy to provide references. If you're not, I probably don't want to hire you.
It doesn't work that way. References are an important part of the hiring process. As a candidate you should be happy to provide references. If you're not, I probably don't want to hire you.
Nonsense. You don't want your references contacted for each job you apply for. You are going to wear them out.
Nonsense. You don't want your references contacted for each job you apply for. You are going to wear them out.
exactly! i want to give someone a heads up....also why would a company call someone's references if they hadnt started the hiring process? That is shady to me. Usually if things are going well in the hiring process you are asked for your references. Putting them on any job app when you have no idea if you'll even be called is just weird.
I was looking over job postings and there's a college near my house that i've seen a few openings at that I'd be interested in. Everytime I go to apply I am asked to enter in 3 references:
Please list your references (not related to you) who can verify your work habits and experience.
3 References Pending:
They want 3. I'm sorry but this seems weird? I'll give you my reference info at the end of the process when you're about to hire me. I mean the form doesn't just ask for names, it asks for email and phone # and wont let you submit the application unless you complete this info. This is a small no named college, i've applied to harvard and mit jobs where they dont ask this.
What gives? why would they require this info so soon?
Because it is a low-paying job, and the sooner they treat you poorly the better the chances they have of controlling you in the future. By you submitting to this, it shows their dominance over you from the start. Any job that requires references just for applying, pass on it. Because anyone who would submit to this, they know will take any offer they give and can be further taken advantage of once in the job. "The computer is slow now, you will have to stay later or come in on the weekend to do this work".
It doesn't work that way. References are an important part of the hiring process. As a candidate you should be happy to provide references. If you're not, I probably don't want to hire you.
This. If you are so secretive or high maintenance that you refuse to comply with some standardized hiring procedure's reasonable requests for information, I might infer that you have something to hide, no one WOULD provide you with a positive recommendation, or you are simply going to be too much trouble to cater to.
I've never heard of "wearing out" a reference. I always ask permission to use someone as a reference and have never ever heard that this turned out to be a burden. They usually thought of it as a compliment and a minor pleasure. I always choose a personal reference who can provide a slightly different perspective on me as a person and a professional than some previous direct supervisor might. There can be limits or company policies about what a supervisor can say about someone.
Last edited by Parnassia; 08-07-2018 at 08:01 PM..
exactly! i want to give someone a heads up....also why would a company call someone's references if they hadnt started the hiring process? That is shady to me. Usually if things are going well in the hiring process you are asked for your references. Putting them on any job app when you have no idea if you'll even be called is just weird.
So you are applying for a job that isn't hiring yet? Write on the application "references provided on request"
I do and often. I'm a reference for many people, but some who have applied for everything and stupidly given them references from the start have pestered me so much, I have asked those people either not to list me as their reference or not to give the references to them until much later on in the process. I'm not interested in talking on the phone for 20 minutes to everyone who works in HR that has time to kill.
I've been used as a reference a number of times. If I actually supervised the person I had no problem answering appropriate questions. I determined what was appropriate.
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