Even the Mainstream Media says Age Discrimination exists

[buenos]

Originally Posted by Hemlock140

My employer has fixed pay ranges for each position, and starting pay is limited to midpoint or below..

Why is it limited to midpoint or below? If you want to hire high performers, then they are already above midpoint, they could only go to your company with a significant pay cut. Or is your corporate leadership prefers mediocrity?

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Originally Posted by Taffee72

Oh wow, guess I'm a baby boomer, lol, did not know that. I'm 46 years old.

Yesterday I had an interview where the manager was complaining how the prior "young person" in the role was constantly texting and had to be told numerous times to stop it.

Then this manager proceeded to say, "but I'm sure we wouldn't have that issue with you."

And it's because you responded with, "What is texting?".

[Hemlock140]

Originally Posted by buenos

Why is it limited to midpoint or below? If you want to hire high performers, then they are already above midpoint, they could only go to your company with a significant pay cut. Or is your corporate leadership prefers mediocrity?

I suppose it's because they have done studies and determined the salary midpoints to be comparable to other employers in the area, and so that people don't hit the maximum and lose annual increases too soon after starting work here. The ranges are updated annually but these days only 2-3% increases. The range for the position I have open now, for example, pays $58-85,000. I usually bring them in at about $65-70,000, and will give them a raise after passing probation. I am not going to start someone new at more than the person who has been here 4 years doing good work.

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Originally Posted by Hemlock140

I suppose it's because they have done studies and determined the salary midpoints to be comparable to other employers in the area, and so that people don't hit the maximum and lose annual increases too soon after starting work here. The ranges are updated annually but these days only 2-3% increases. The range for the position I have open now, for example, pays $58-85,000. I usually bring them in at about $65-70,000, and will give them a raise after passing probation. I am not going to start someone new at more than the person who has been here 4 years doing good work.

The problem with those studies is they assume you're competing in just a local market. Perhaps true for non-skilled and low skill labor. But today high skill labor is mobile. For example ( I think I mentioned this in another thread) our local market includes chicken plants and feed mills and some manufacturing. But I'm not hiring chicken pluckers; I'm hiring scientists and engineers. My competition isn't Tyson. It's Silicon Valley and Atlanta and Denver and places like that. Sure, one can argue the cost of living is lower, but it's not enough lower to compensate for the much lower pay.

Add to that many young people are looking for more lifestyle and amenities than our local area so we might need to actually pay more to get them to pick between say, here and Denver. Now, if we can get them in the door, the work we do here is so fascinating, many will stay, but it's the initial recruitment that's hard to overcome.