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I've only worked for companies with multiple thousands of employees (at the low end) to over 100,000 employees. As a hiring manager, I'm always looking for talented people to hire - especially when I do not have any openings.
So you would run ads just to see what is out there in the hopes you find a good one. Why especially when you don't have any openings?
The boss is running ads and conducting interviews for all positions in the company. It is a small company and someone found the ads and confronted employer. Employer said they may be switching people around and changing people's positions because they are expanding. Also said they are just trying to see what is out there.
They never thought the employees would find out. Time to look for a new job.
Thoughts?
Yep. Never heard of a situation like this, where he is interviewing for all the positions, that is very odd. But, you have to go with your gut feelings, those initial instincts are generally pretty accurate.
Immediately start running a stealth job search. This means do not tell anyone at work you're working, and tell recruiters not to contact your current employer.
Do this while you are working, so you are a coveted "passive candidate" so recruiters will trip over themselves to recruit you. Once you're out of work, employers discriminate against those out of work.
A good boss, if they were expanding would have said as much instead of not telling people what they were up to and potentially causing distress because frankly nothing stays secret. I mean "Holy 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon" Batman. The odds that he would put such an add out there and have nobody in the company, or their family or friends bring it to their attention etc. is nil.
To me, expansion sounds like a lie designed to keep people from leaving until they have replacements lined up but I could be wrong, OP is so much closer to the situation.
It's never a bad idea to shop around though, see what is out there and perhaps find something better.
Key point: How has the business been doing financially? If it's been doing poorly to mediocre then the "expanding" thing is more likely to be untruthful.
The boss is running ads and conducting interviews for all positions in the company. It is a small company and someone found the ads and confronted employer. Employer said they may be switching people around and changing people's positions because they are expanding. Also said they are just trying to see what is out there.
They never thought the employees would find out. Time to look for a new job.
Thoughts?
From personal experience, hit the ground running on job sites.
Immediately start running a stealth job search. This means do not tell anyone at work you're working, and tell recruiters not to contact your current employer.
Do this while you are working, so you are a coveted "passive candidate" so recruiters will trip over themselves to recruit you. Once you're out of work, employers discriminate against those out of work.
Bingo.
I have a cousin who used to do a job search every two years "just to see what's out there." Sometimes he'd find a new job and leave. Sometimes he'd stay. Once he got hired on at a new company that bought out his old company and he ended up supervising his former boss.
His theory was that if the company decided to "change directions," they'd fire him in a heartbeat. He needed to keep on top of things, keep expanding his network.
Lots of times companies make decisions that have nothing to do with the competency of the current employees. Sometimes companies just make poor decisions. Sometimes they are losing money and think if they reorganize they can save money and keep from going under.
In any case, you are in a much better position to land a new job if you are working already.
I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about what the company is up to. You know what's going on.
Yep. Never heard of a situation like this, where he is interviewing for all the positions, that is very odd. But, you have to go with your gut feelings, those initial instincts are generally pretty accurate.
They were interviewing at the job and we saw all the candidates coming in to be interviewed but they would not disclose for what role to us.
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Originally Posted by bobsell
Immediately start running a stealth job search. This means do not tell anyone at work you're working, and tell recruiters not to contact your current employer.
Do this while you are working, so you are a coveted "passive candidate" so recruiters will trip over themselves to recruit you. Once you're out of work, employers discriminate against those out of work.
That is what I am doing now.
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Originally Posted by Mathguy
A good boss, if they were expanding would have said as much instead of not telling people what they were up to and potentially causing distress because frankly nothing stays secret. I mean "Holy 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon" Batman. The odds that he would put such an add out there and have nobody in the company, or their family or friends bring it to their attention etc. is nil.
To me, expansion sounds like a lie designed to keep people from leaving until they have replacements lined up but I could be wrong, OP is so much closer to the situation.
It's never a bad idea to shop around though, see what is out there and perhaps find something better.
Key point: How has the business been doing financially? If it's been doing poorly to mediocre then the "expanding" thing is more likely to be untruthful.
Business under performed this year. I am definitely shopping around now to be safe and get out ahead of this.
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould
Bingo.
I have a cousin who used to do a job search every two years "just to see what's out there." Sometimes he'd find a new job and leave. Sometimes he'd stay. Once he got hired on at a new company that bought out his old company and he ended up supervising his former boss.
His theory was that if the company decided to "change directions," they'd fire him in a heartbeat. He needed to keep on top of things, keep expanding his network.
Lots of times companies make decisions that have nothing to do with the competency of the current employees. Sometimes companies just make poor decisions. Sometimes they are losing money and think if they reorganize they can save money and keep from going under.
In any case, you are in a much better position to land a new job if you are working already.
I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about what the company is up to. You know what's going on.
Best to get out ahead of it.
That is exactly what I am doing now. Now that the shock and fear has wore off, I am shopping around to see what is out there.
Thanks everyone for all your input. I appreciate all of you talking me through this and giving me great advice.
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The odds that he would put such an add out there and have nobody in the company, or their family or friends bring it to their attention etc. is nil.
