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Old 06-25-2019, 08:01 PM
 
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I've gotten quite a bit of flack over my years of posting here because I have an attitude towards my employer that few share.

I don't need them, and I don't have to deal with their BS. Sure, I've got to pick my battles, but if I feel strongly enough about something I'm willing to walk out and quit over it at a moments notice. I've said it before, but either the BS goes, or I do.

And every time I've made that decision it's worked out in my favor and I've been better off because of it.

Like now, I've got a great job with a great boss that lets me do things the way I want as long as the work gets done, actually pays me fairly for my time, and doesn't expect me to work myself to death day in and day out without so much as a thanks.

My point, don't listen to these people that tell you to "Stop whining" or "Just deal with it" or any other such nonsense, because that's exactly what it is. YOU have the power to change your situation, don't feel shackled to a job, and most importantly, don't listen to people who think that the boss, or person in charge is always right, because they aren't.

Thoughts?
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Old 06-25-2019, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Kansas City North
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Most people have family and financial obligations that prevent them from saying ďIím outta hereĒ and walking out the door whenever they get pi**ed off. If a person is truly miserable at work, itís much better to find a new job first, and then quit the old one.

Iíve always subscribed to the theory that the person who signs the paychecks gets to make the rules.
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Old 06-25-2019, 11:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jimmy12345678 View Post
I've gotten quite a bit of flack over my years of posting here because I have an attitude towards my employer that few share.

I don't need them, and I don't have to deal with their BS. Sure, I've got to pick my battles, but if I feel strongly enough about something I'm willing to walk out and quit over it at a moments notice. I've said it before, but either the BS goes, or I do.

And every time I've made that decision it's worked out in my favor and I've been better off because of it.

Like now, I've got a great job with a great boss that lets me do things the way I want as long as the work gets done, actually pays me fairly for my time, and doesn't expect me to work myself to death day in and day out without so much as a thanks.

My point, don't listen to these people that tell you to "Stop whining" or "Just deal with it" or any other such nonsense, because that's exactly what it is. YOU have the power to change your situation, don't feel shackled to a job, and most importantly, don't listen to people who think that the boss, or person in charge is always right, because they aren't.


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Very good. Congratulations! I'm with you.

Some people are like bullies in real life and in the forums on the internet. When they don't hear what they don't want to hear, they just want to shut you up.

In the real world and at the workplace, when you are nice and quiet, many people want to take advantage of you, many co-workers and managers think you are easy to be manipulated; they want and try to make you to do what they want you to do for their advantages. And if you don't speak up, they make you to do more and more. That's the time you feel enough is enough, and even how nice you are, you have to speak up. When you know yourself you are smart and you have inner strength, you know where to go and whom to talk to that can help you, things will be better.

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Old 06-26-2019, 12:28 AM
 
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OP you're linking two things that are not mutually exclusive.

1) Each situation, employer, and employee is different.

2)Telling a person to stop whining is NOT the same as saying don't do something to change your situation.

So telling a person to "Stop whining" or "Just deal with it" does not mean the person doesn't have the power to change the situation.

As a matter of fact I think most posts here always point out that a person IS NOT shackled to a job, and point out that the person actually DOES have the power/ability to leave if they chose to. Most of the time it's just a matter of how and when a person leaves. Sometimes depending on the situation, rarely, a person IS advised to quit. (Depending on their financial situation and family obligations, of course.)
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Old 06-26-2019, 06:28 AM
 
Location: Greensboro, NC
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OP, I agree with you about leaving if you're unhappy, but I'd never voluntarily do it without an offer lined up elsewhere (which is what you're suggesting, unless I'm misunderstanding your post). Get the offer from the next company, then take your stand against the current one.
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Old 06-26-2019, 06:48 AM
 
Location: OHIO
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Just deal with it does not mean don't do anything, it means to figure it out and handle it. It's up to YOU how you "deal with it" ex: just quitting or finding another job first, etc.
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Old 06-26-2019, 07:22 AM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Originally Posted by jimmy12345678 View Post
I've gotten quite a bit of flack over my years of posting here
because I have an attitude towards my employer that few share.

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That's called whining. Stop it.
Fix it. Leave it. Suck it up. Choose.
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Old 06-26-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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OP, aren't you an auto mechanic? The expectations around turnover and having multiple jobs over a short period of time are COMPLETELY different than expectations around white collar work.
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Old 06-26-2019, 08:24 AM
 
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That's called whining. Stop it.
Fix it. Leave it. Suck it up. Choose.
You sound like my old boss. Not willing to hear anyone out and quick to dismiss any complaint, valid or not as mere whining.

And if you were my boss, Iíd do the same thing I did to him: tell you to pound salt and leave. I donít have to put up with a dismissive attitude from anyone, nor will I. Even if you donít agree, Iíll respect you if youíll hear me out. But to just dismiss me offhand like that, nope, not dealing with it. Iíll go work for someone who respects me, like where I work now.

I donít believe in ďsuck it upĒ, I believe in standing up for yourself and being willing to walk away if it means sticking to your principles.

Seriously though, are there no valid complaints ever? Or is it all just whining?
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Old 06-26-2019, 08:26 AM
 
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I haven't had a boss since 2009 and now own my own company. There is no other way to escape the pitfalls of an employee/employer relationship. Sure, fight for your rights, but remember in the eyes of management your griping can affect your future negatively as construed as not a team player. It sucks for sure, but that's like in business.
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