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Old 02-24-2010, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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The Art History major, because he/she rubbed shoulders in classes/extracurricular activities alongside the people that are going to be running the country in the near future. Either that, or he/she went on to law school or business school, like a large portion of Ivy graduates do.
You're probably correct - for five percent of those students.
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Old 02-25-2010, 02:14 AM
 
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wait a minute. being a nurse or a teacher IS being a professional. teaching and nursing are professions, arent they? it's not like being a salesclerk, which is simply a job (sorry no offense to any clerks out there).
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Old 02-25-2010, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I think the OP meant "corporate" instead of professional. And I'm with him; F--- the corporate life!
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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Corporate life is great. Great benefits, flexible work schedules, easy to change jobs, easy to change locations (transfer), comfortable working conditions, perks such as on-site fitness facilities, pools, tennis courts, basketball courts, carpool/rideshare/vanpool systems, free education reimbursement, free training. Surrounded by other professionals with whom you can share stories or solve problems. Satisfies a good portion of the need to socialize because you are surrounded by all sorts of people. There are lots of clubs and after work activities and teams. Want more money? Just change companies every few years.
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Old 02-25-2010, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Me and another truck driver had a very similar conversation about this yesterday. Yeah we have been told our whole lives go to college get an education so you can be something. Now, many people with those degrees are on the unemployment line. While the money we make isn't good, (not because of the company, but lousy haul rates), we both agreed that we're more scure in our jobs than those in the professional world. At least in our profession, power plants need coal for electricity and construction companies need stone, sand, and asphalt for construction. However, companies have started figuring out that they don't need all the middle and upper level management, and as a result have been trimming those positions. I just heard that UPS is letting 1,800 people go, but it's not drivers, it's management positions. The problem arises though when you take that manager out of the 7-8 hour a day desk job and they have to actually work but for maybe 10,12 hours and for less money it's huge and difficult adjustment
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:07 AM
 
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Corporate life is great. Great benefits, flexible work schedules, easy to change jobs, easy to change locations (transfer), comfortable working conditions, perks such as on-site fitness facilities, pools, tennis courts, basketball courts, carpool/rideshare/vanpool systems, free education reimbursement, free training. Surrounded by other professionals with whom you can share stories or solve problems. Satisfies a good portion of the need to socialize because you are surrounded by all sorts of people. There are lots of clubs and after work activities and teams. Want more money? Just change companies every few years.
This is all true.

No matter what you do, you can run into the same problems both in and out of the corporate world. Kissing up, back stabbing, office politics, the only way you are going to steer clear of that is by being your own boss. Doesn't mater what you do for a living.

I have never met anyone that regretted going to college. And I constantly meet people that wish they had. You can make it, or fail, in life with or without a degree, but it is up to the individual.
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Old 02-25-2010, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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[quote=Charles;13050960]Corporate life is great. Great benefits, flexible work schedules, easy to change jobs, easy to change locations (transfer), comfortable working conditions, perks such as on-site fitness facilities, pools, tennis courts, basketball courts, carpool/rideshare/vanpool systems, free education reimbursement, free training. Surrounded by other professionals with whom you can share stories or solve problems. Satisfies a good portion of the need to socialize because you are surrounded by all sorts of people. There are lots of clubs and after work activities and teams. Want more money? Just change companies every few years.[/quote

This is exactly what I'm talking about, I don't call that environment work, that's more like a paid vacation. Clubs, after work activities and teams! Give me a break, I enjoy working alone. Someone in this atmosphere wouldn't last a day in my job. Not everyone is qualified for the corporate life either.
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Old 02-25-2010, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Las Flores, Orange County, CA
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This is exactly what I'm talking about, I don't call that environment work, that's more like a paid vacation. Clubs, after work activities and teams!

Give me a break
What's wrong with these types employer amenities? They retain people, add to morale, and contribute to good health. As long as the time card is square and the work gets done, what difference does it make?

I just got done playing basketball at lunch. Nice perk having courts and showers at our facility.

Here's a good way to spend lunch too:

YouTube - CrossFit Toronto lunchtime workout



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Old 02-25-2010, 01:47 PM
 
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Of course, there are also cases in the corporate world where you are practically required to participate in those type of extracurricular events or else you start getting in trouble. I've done both corporate jobs and more blue collar work and I preferred the blue collar work as far as being able to spend my personal time as I pleased.

Also, at my last job, a lot of those "fun" things were taken away once revenues started going down.
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Old 02-25-2010, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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Corporate life is great. Great benefits, flexible work schedules, easy to change jobs, easy to change locations (transfer), comfortable working conditions, perks such as on-site fitness facilities, pools, tennis courts, basketball courts, carpool/rideshare/vanpool systems, free education reimbursement, free training. Surrounded by other professionals with whom you can share stories or solve problems. Satisfies a good portion of the need to socialize because you are surrounded by all sorts of people. There are lots of clubs and after work activities and teams. Want more money? Just change companies every few years.
HMM, corporate life pre-2000s or so? Maybe you mean "the CEO life".

Today it's more like; benefits that shrink/get eroded with each passing year, work schedules that barely allow for sleep or having any semblence of a family (and perks like on-site fitness centers you can't use because you're expected to be WORKING when you're awake), and you are stuck at all this because if you leave you'll probably be unemployed for 2 years or more (or change jobs at a fraction of your pay and lose what little vacation time your "seniority" had), worrying every day that you will be laid off tomorrow for no good reason other than greed and a sudden change in thinking by upper management, stuck with socializing with your coworkers because you don't have one second of your life to socialize with anyone else.

Your post was a parody, right? I mean all those great perks you talk about are the essence of my earlier post, they mostly got sucked away into the void the same time all those jobs got sent to India, etc.
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