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I think the Dutch don't get enough respect for the century 1600's on this thread.
the Dutch delivered one of the worst defeats in the Royal Navy's history, and one of the worst suffered by the British military in 1667.
Some say its the most serious defeat it has ever had in its home waters.
But outside of the Netherlands, how widely has Dutch ever been spoken?
That gives you an idea of the actual standing of the country compared with England.
I think the Dutch don't get enough respect for the century 1600's on this thread.
the Dutch delivered one of the worst defeats in the Royal Navy's history, and one of the worst suffered by the British military in 1667.
Some say its the most serious defeat it has ever had in its home waters.
I definitely give the Dutch credit for the 1600's. The rise of the Netherlands was spectacular. The thing is that France and England were still bigger and more powerful.
Mongolia was at the height of it's power in the 1200s. The 1800s where cut up between England and Japan. 1900s between the nazis in the first half and soviets in the second. after 9/11 and the iraq war the US lost its soft power and all but in practice gave up its title to china meaning the 21st century is theirs. that leaves the 1990s for US leadership in the world. Yup, we had a total of one decade. Still, it was pretty great one at that.
Mongolia was at the height of it's power in the 1200s. The 1800s where cut up between England and Japan. 1900s between the nazis in the first half and soviets in the second. after 9/11 and the iraq war the US lost its soft power and all but in practice gave up its title to china meaning the 21st century is theirs. that leaves the 1990s for US leadership in the world. Yup, we had a total of one decade. Still, it was pretty great one at that.
just facts really. I don't have too strong of an opinion on one country or the other
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