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Old 08-07-2021, 02:11 AM
 
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I just don't like the climates most developing countries have. Most are too scorching hot.
Out of all the dumb things you have already written this one takes the cake.

Developing countries are scorching hot?

You do realize how vast, varied, and broad the concept of developing country is?

From Europe to Asia to Africa to the Americas, there are developing countries in every continent.
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Old 08-07-2021, 02:14 AM
 
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Who do you think it's better off:

A man in a developing country with assets of 500 million euros on his portfolio, or a man in a developed country with only 800 euros in his bank account?

It's OBVIOUS rich people in developing countries are better off.... RICH IS RICH!!
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Old 08-07-2021, 02:54 AM
 
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Duh, good luck with that! Sure lower middle class Westerners can get good salaries in Eastern Europe or be rich as a king with their western salaries somewhere like Africa or in the Amazon jungle and act like they own the place but in places like Istanbul or Moscow they'd be nobodies, despite them being in a developing country.

I wonder what is you country of origin karl77 with your fetish of scorching heat?
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Old 08-07-2021, 03:32 AM
 
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Duh, good luck with that! Sure lower middle class Westerners can get good salaries in Eastern Europe or be rich as a king with their western salaries somewhere like Africa or in the Amazon jungle and act like they own the place but in places like Istanbul or Moscow they'd be nobodies, despite them being in a developing country.

I wonder what is you country of origin karl77 with your fetish of scorching heat?
I am from Switzerland but live in Austria.
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Old 08-07-2021, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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Duh, good luck with that! Sure lower middle class Westerners can get good salaries in Eastern Europe or be rich as a king with their western salaries somewhere like Africa or in the Amazon jungle and act like they own the place but in places like Istanbul or Moscow they'd be nobodies, despite them being in a developing country.

I wonder what is you country of origin karl77 with your fetish of scorching heat?
This is only to the average people, those that are in certain areas of power circles in Istabul or Moscow would recognize the somebodies from somewhere in Africa, perhaps told prior to them arriving. Governments are another institutions the world over that knows if so-and-so is a somebody in X place and act accordingly, giving them certain privileges during the time they are in Moscow or Istanbul that normal people that have lived their all their lives don't get.

A lower middle class "westerners" are nobodies everywhere they go at all levels of society and they are treated like one. No one from the government will go out of their way to meet in person a typical lower middle class person, nor will the lower middle class person will receive the business cards of countless entrepreneurs, politicians, etc. No store in say Madison Ave in NYC will close the store in the middle of the day for one lower middle class person (not to mention they can't afford to shop there), but they will do that if a rich person from say Africa request that so they have the luxury of shopping without other people bothering or distracting them. Frequent the best restaurants with extra specisl treatment and attention by the staff. Would get a personalized tour of a museum if they wish to visit while the typical lower middle class person can visit with everybody else and not the areas reserved for the few. Ex-presidents, local magnates, etc tske time from their day to personally go where you are and meet you. That doesn't happen with regular lower middle class people.
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Old 08-07-2021, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
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Western countries have inequality too, but lower-middle or working class people don’t generally have a deprived standard of living like they do in developing countries.

Having a toilet that flushes, hot and cold running water, a washer and dryer or an air conditioner are not considered luxuries in western or developed countries.

These are not considered luxuries from China to Malaysia to Argentina.


Only the least developed countries(Bangladesh, Chad, Haiti, Suda,etc) fit your notion of developing countries.
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Old 08-07-2021, 07:47 AM
 
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These are not considered luxuries from China to Malaysia to Argentina.


Only the least developed countries(Bangladesh, Chad, Haiti, Suda,etc) fit your notion of developing countries.
Or in much of Latin America.
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Old 08-07-2021, 08:27 AM
 
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For me it's more of a big city small fish vs small town big fish thing, not so much developed vs developing country.

It's much easier to become known in a small town in the UK or Germany than in Lima, Istanbul or Rio. In the later there are countless people striving to make it and nepotism while also present in small towns is rampant in big cities, more so in developing countries.

Many of those have better connections than you (e.g. they share a birth city/village with the boss) and they have better gasp of the local language, customs and ways of doing business.

Sure, you can be a barista, work in a call center or get a 9-to-5 office job for a multinational but why bother? I mean to me that's not a good way to live. And if I'm going to be an office clerk I'd rather do it in smaller community "where everybody knows your name". Living in a big city only makes sense if you're a millionaire or a (wanna-be) celebrity. But in reality only few people make it, most work as bank tellers or in call centers, expats included. Oh an even millionaires move to the rich suburbs or buy ranches eventually, going closer to nature.

Btw many celebs and popular lawyers actually start locally in smaller communities as they have less competition there and once popular enough word gets out and they get transferred to the national TV channel/sports team, whatever. Most famous Bulgarian politicians came from small towns and cities. Ironically it's harder to become rich and famous in a big city with established elites that push their own relatives to the spotlight (even Hollywood is full of nepotism).
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Old 08-07-2021, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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For me it's more of a big city small fish vs small town big fish thing, not so much developed vs developing country.

It's much easier to become known in a small town in the UK or Germany than in Lima, Istanbul or Rio. In the later there are countless people striving to make it and nepotism while also present in small towns is rampant in big cities, more so in developing countries.
The same can be said of anywhere, it's easier to become well known in any small time as opposed to a big city.
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Old 08-07-2021, 11:46 AM
 
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^^which is my point. Most expats foolishly go to the larger cities though... and do "wonderful" jobs as English teachers or call center employees. I mean that's a great way to get your foot in the door but it's not a way to live a good life.
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