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Disneyland is not the "happiest place on earth", that distinction goes to Plymouth!
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Disneyland is not the "happiest place on earth," that distinction goes to Plymouth!
Another vote for neither.
Disneyland is not the "happiest place on earth" as that distinction goes to Plymouth.
Disneyland is not the "happiest place on earth", that distinction goes to Plymouth!
OR
Disneyland is not the "happiest place on earth," that distinction goes to Plymouth!
Thanks.
The first one is what I would choose because by itself you'd never see "happiest place on earth,". But you would see "happiest place on earth".
Even better would be: Disneyland is not the "happiest place on earth". That distinction goes to Plymouth.
Since both sentences have a subject and a verb.
If it's a period or comma it goes inside quotation marks. If it's a colon or semicolon it goes outside. If it's a question mark or exclamation it goes inside when it applies only to the quoted material. when either apply to the entire sentence it goes outside.
When you write something that includes quotation marks, either the punctuation goes inside or it belongs outside. The 'rule' is actually just common sense. IF the punctuation relates to what is inside the marks, then it goes inside. Otherwise, it goes outside. Should I quote something like "A preposition is a bad word to end a sentence with." then the end of the quote is the end of a sentence, and the period accompanies it. However, when the quotation is not the end of a sentence, "Now three things abide, Faith Hope and Love..." , then the punctuation should grace the sentence, not the quote. I realize that this is controversial, and more important than the mundane questions of "Who does the President think he is?" or "Nobody believes Global Warming to be real", Still, it's not the end of the world if you change the written form of English, and everyone adopts your style, thus changing the language irreparably, which leads to the collapse of World Civilization.
Wouldn't the comma placement depend on whether the 'complete quote' as spoken/written had a comma there? I agree with the poster that the text needs to be set as two separate statements.
The US is slowly moving to more logical quotation mark practice (as used in the UK and other countries) where the punctuation only goes inside the quotation marks if it is actually... part of the quote. Its much more logical, and simply looks better and more symmetric. Not surprisingly, its known as "logical punctuation". Its getting more common in legal circles especially since whether that comma was part of the quote or not can be the be all and end all of the legal case!
In any event, writing so as to avoid the comma is preferable.
Recognizing that this is an ancient thread, rules are initially designed to help and as guidelines. Within a few moments of a rule being created, pucker-butts will attempt to turn any new rules into addendums to the commandments, and claim that they are engraved in stone.
Tom, the website you want is "cnn.com", which is a news site.
Tom, the website you want is "cnn.com," which is a news site.
When Tom types in the quoted phrase, which was the intended phrase?
The US is slowly moving to more logical quotation mark practice (as used in the UK and other countries) where the punctuation only goes inside the quotation marks if it is actually... part of the quote. Its much more logical, and simply looks better and more symmetric. Not surprisingly, its known as "logical punctuation". Its getting more common in legal circles especially since whether that comma was part of the quote or not can be the be all and end all of the legal case!
In any event, writing so as to avoid the comma is preferable.
This is how I was taught, and always have done. Of course the school I went to until grade 3 was private, and most of the teachers were English, so maybe they taught it the way they knew. It just makes sense that only the words within the quote marks are spoken. You shouldn't have to stop and figure out what was actually said.
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