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Old 06-26-2016, 06:42 AM
 
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Twice in the last week I've read articles that used "cuppa" in reference to coffee. My understanding has always been that cuppa refers to a "cup of tea". Has that changed?
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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Twice in the last week I've read articles that used "cuppa" in reference to coffee. My understanding has always been that cuppa refers to a "cup of tea". Has that changed?
That's what I always thought. My friend's Brit side of the family says "cuppa" for tea.

On this side of the pond, I have a niece who moved from NJ to MA about ten years ago. My sister went to visit her and came back laughing and said that my niece asked her, "Mom, should I put on a pawt?" My sister said, "Are you asking me if I want a cup of tea?"
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Old 06-26-2016, 11:24 AM
 
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https://www.google.com/#q=define+cuppa
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Old 06-26-2016, 04:27 PM
 
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Twice in the last week I've read articles that used "cuppa" in reference to coffee. My understanding has always been that cuppa refers to a "cup of tea". Has that changed?
A quick google search shows widespread use of 'cuppa coffee' by businesses in the United States, Canada, New Zealand and - particularly, it seems - Australia. There's a Canadian animation studio called Cuppa Coffee Studios, founded in 1992. And since it seems very likely that such commercial use followed colloquial use, the phrase appears to have been around awhile - as in, decades.
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Old 06-27-2016, 06:15 AM
 
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A quick google search shows widespread use of 'cuppa coffee' by businesses in the United States, Canada, New Zealand and - particularly, it seems - Australia. There's a Canadian animation studio called Cuppa Coffee Studios, founded in 1992. And since it seems very likely that such commercial use followed colloquial use, the phrase appears to have been around awhile - as in, decades.
That's a little different, tho. In the examples you're citing, it's being used simply as a contraction for "cup of". I realize the origin is the same, but I'm talking about "cuppa" being used alone as a noun. Going through the search list provided by CSD, all of the major sources(Merriam-Webster, Collins, Cambridge, etc.) define it as referring strictly to tea.
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Old 06-27-2016, 07:22 AM
 
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The first time I saw "cuppa" in print was in an American fan magazine in the caption under a photo of Ringo Starr holding a cup. Couldn't tell from the photo what the contents of the cup was, nor was it mentioned where the photo was taken.
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Old 06-27-2016, 01:58 PM
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A quick google search shows widespread use of 'cuppa coffee' by businesses in the United States, Canada, New Zealand and - particularly, it seems - Australia. There's a Canadian animation studio called Cuppa Coffee Studios, founded in 1992. And since it seems very likely that such commercial use followed colloquial use, the phrase appears to have been around awhile - as in, decades.
Cuppa is the phrase in itself. It means cup of tea. Cuppa coffee or cuppa soup are not equivalent to the term cuppa alone.


Cuppa meaning coffee is a misuse - though if enough people misuse it will become standard. Like "alot" probably will. Like "addicting" already has etc.
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Old 06-27-2016, 02:03 PM
 
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For me, "cuppa" has always meant a cup of tea. A box of Builder's Tea advertises itself as "The thirst-quenching strong cuppa."
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Old 06-28-2016, 05:28 AM
 
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That's a little different, tho. In the examples you're citing, it's being used simply as a contraction for "cup of". I realize the origin is the same, but I'm talking about "cuppa" being used alone as a noun. Going through the search list provided by CSD, all of the major sources(Merriam-Webster, Collins, Cambridge, etc.) define it as referring strictly to tea.
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Cuppa is the phrase in itself. It means cup of tea. Cuppa coffee or cuppa soup are not equivalent to the term cuppa alone.
I understand that. However, 'cuppa' in reference to tea obviously derived from the longer phrase 'cuppa tea', which obviously derived from 'cup of tea'. Once the latter was also applied to coffee, and 'cuppa coffee' emerged - which was probably inevitable, given the similarity of the beverages and the fact that both are commonly consumed through the Anglosphere - the use of 'cuppa' as a standalone to refer to coffee as well was also just a matter of time.

Anyway, a coffee shop in Las Vegas:
Holley's Cuppa

Just 'Cuppa'. No 'Coffee' in the title, but that's their primary product. And they have a roast called 'Cuppa City Roast'. Again, no 'Coffee' in the name of the roast.

Also, a little googling shows 'cuppa' to have widespread use in Australia in reference to either tea or coffee.

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Cuppa meaning coffee is a misuse - though if enough people misuse it will become standard. Like "alot" probably will. Like "addicting" already has etc.
The idea that there are correct and incorrect usages for an informal colloquialism is silly. It's appropriate use is for that which it is commonly understood to refer, which is demonstrably for either tea or coffee.
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Old 06-28-2016, 02:03 PM
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I understand that. However, 'cuppa' in reference to tea obviously derived from the longer phrase 'cuppa tea', which obviously derived from 'cup of tea'. Once the latter was also applied to coffee, and 'cuppa coffee' emerged - which was probably inevitable, given the similarity of the beverages and the fact that both are commonly consumed through the Anglosphere - the use of 'cuppa' as a standalone to refer to coffee as well was also just a matter of time.

Anyway, a coffee shop in Las Vegas:
Holley's Cuppa

Just 'Cuppa'. No 'Coffee' in the title, but that's their primary product. And they have a roast called 'Cuppa City Roast'. Again, no 'Coffee' in the name of the roast.

Also, a little googling shows 'cuppa' to have widespread use in Australia in reference to either tea or coffee.



The idea that there are correct and incorrect usages for an informal colloquialism is silly. It's appropriate use is for that which it is commonly understood to refer, which is demonstrably for either tea or coffee.
Of course it isn't silly, at least no more silly than that any utterance can have a correct usage. Wanker, a colloquialism, means something. If you say "I have a wanker," you've got it all wrong. Its an incorrect usage. It can become a correct usage through widespread use, but its an incorrect usage at present.


I guess when one isn't that familiar with the language in actual fact, and instead forms conclusions based on google-knowledge, then one can come to such fatuous conclusions that colloquialisms (what's a formal colloquialism?!) can't have an incorrect usage.
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