Terrorism Prisoners in Adak (Bethel: sex offenders, home, live)

[Floyd_Davidson]

Originally Posted by starlite9

At first I was going to say that the damage was just from being abandoned, lack of maintenance and high winds, but after looking, you can see where the wind tore the siding back, but it appears it was peeled back to get the lumber under it and windows first, then the wind finished destroying the buildings.

The FAA turned over a complex to the Local Native Community here in Nenana on top of FAA hill, very prime property with a commanding view of the Tanana Valley there and a host of houses and buildings. What has happened is they went up there and vandalized all the property to where it is worthless, stole anything of value out of it and is just plain sad now that it is rotting away...

Could have been made into some really nice rehab for those members that need a place to get back on their feet or a host of other applications... now it is just land requiring a large amount of money to make whole again.

The military shut the place down to begin with because the cost of maintaining the buildings was a burden that even the DOJ could not handle, never mind a Native corporation.

The asset of value, for anyone but especially to the Native corporation, was never the buildings... it was the land.

Keeping the buildings would have meant bankruptcy, nurturing the land is an investment in the future.

[Crossfire600]

Originally Posted by Captain Crunch

trashed & vandalized by its current owners...

It was a first-class up-to-date facility til the US government abandoned it....

Your taxpayer dollars totally wasted...again







58 pictures from 2007...

Impressions of Adak (Aleutians) '07 - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/heritagefutures/sets/72157602030374511/ - broken link)

My wife (akvarmit) was stationed there back in the 80's.. She has fond and not so fond memories of the place.. I heard there is awesome bou hunting on the island though.. She has a picture somewhere of the Adak national forest. It is a single pine tree the Marines planted and put a sigh in front of.. lol

[Captain Crunch]

Seems I read somewhere recently that pretty much any of the multi-family homes can now be purchased from the native corp.....or anything else there at this point

[stiffnecked]

I bet the people in Adak are wishing they had the prisoners, the jobs they would bring, along with some help to keep the electricity on.

Adak fights to keep the lights on

[starlite9]

Originally Posted by stiffnecked

I bet the people in Adak are wishing they had the prisoners, the jobs they would bring, along with some help to keep the electricity on.

Adak fights to keep the lights on

Well like Floyd stated, the value is the land. Guess they get to see how valuable the land is in the dark of winter.

The lifestyles that the people lived in back two hundred years ago is gone, they are as dependent on the modern world as is the rest of us.

Not one building there is built to be self sustaining, they require electricity, fuel oil and a lot of imported items to maintain a modern lifestyle as does all other Native communities in Alaska.

Nobody lives in sod huts anymore which were efficient on very little supplied heat, and kept people alive for centuries.

On the North Slope, all the towns now are built around the power plant which runs on diesel fuel, if the power fails, so does the heat, lights and way of life everyone has grown accustom to. All the services are supplemented by money from the oil there, when it runs out, the slope communities will either have to move, or be paid for by the Taxpayers and that will be a big bill. There is no work there other than Oil related jobs or those that are paid for by oil money.

Adak is going to be a dead ghost town shortly unless they start to do something to bring in Commerce of some sort, there is a world class port there, but it doesn't sound like they are much interested in that, just grants from the taxpayers to keep their lifestyle going. Money is getting tighter and there is going to be a lot of empty hands out in years to come.

Sad

[blueflames50]

Originally Posted by starlite9

Well like Floyd stated, the value is the land. Guess they get to see how valuable the land is in the dark of winter.

The lifestyles that the people lived in back two hundred years ago is gone, they are as dependent on the modern world as is the rest of us.

Not one building there is built to be self sustaining, they require electricity, fuel oil and a lot of imported items to maintain a modern lifestyle as does all other Native communities in Alaska.

Nobody lives in sod huts anymore which were efficient on very little supplied heat, and kept people alive for centuries.

On the North Slope, all the towns now are built around the power plant which runs on diesel fuel, if the power fails, so does the heat, lights and way of life everyone has grown accustom to. All the services are supplemented by money from the oil there, when it runs out, the slope communities will either have to move, or be paid for by the Taxpayers and that will be a big bill. There is no work there other than Oil related jobs or those that are paid for by oil money.

Adak is going to be a dead ghost town shortly unless they start to do something to bring in Commerce of some sort, there is a world class port there, ibutt doesn't sound like they are much interested in that, just grants from the taxpayers to keep their lifestyle going. Money is getting tighter and there is going to be a lot of empty hands out in years to come.

Sad

well now that there has been a major fuel leak, the media will draw attention to the place and maybe make a chance for the good out of a bad situation.

[stiffnecked]

Diesel fuel leak in Aleutians threatens wildlife habitat: Alaska News | adn.com

I doubt if the national media will pick up this story. The earthquake in Haiti will generate more publicity. While the spill is bad diesel fuel spills tend to dissipate on their own.

Magnitude 7.0 - HAITI REGION

[Captain Crunch]

126,000 gallons dumped of the friggen ground before they caught it....someone was asleep at the wheel

[starlite9]

Originally Posted by Captain Crunch

126,000 gallons dumped of the friggen ground before they caught it....someone was asleep at the wheel

Yeah, our company's spill response side just sent out a group with the State ADEC guy to do/see what is going to be needed to clean it up. Most is still underground in the gravel. The main tank over filled and then filled the containment system then over that.

It was a foreign company that was doing the fueling on the underground tanks off a barge from what I understand. Going to be a few months cleaning on that and a lot of dirt removal for remediation.

Seems that two of the fuelers were talking about the diesel smell, and the one guy told him he was stupid because it was a fuel farm, you are suppose to smell diesel.... Anyway, after the ground was saturated, the fuel ran into a stream and out into the bay...

Wonder if they were having this conversation in English....

[starlite9]

Originally Posted by blueflames50

well now that there has been a major fuel leak, the media will draw attention to the place and maybe make a chance for the good out of a bad situation.

Oh, there will be a change, anyone there that has a 40 hour Hazwoper card will be gainfully employed for the next few months at 12 hour days or more.

There will be alot of money dumped there shortly, either from the fueler's insurance or one of the State/Federal funds.

Don't know if I will be going out there or not.