Weather is great in Arizona - why can't the the other aspects of our quality of life be as good as our climate?

[JGatti]

Originally Posted by saffordpastor

Where I live it doesnt usually get that hot....105 at the most occasionally 108 to 110...highest ever is 114, but usually 95 to 100...quite comfortable actually, and we have a mountain about 8 miles south of town that rises to almost 11000 ft...from my house I can literally be in the pines in 15-20 min.

Most of the year is very comfortable here....I love AZ.

I really like the green, but colder states too...just dont know if I could handle the cold.
Today it was in the 50's and my feet were freezing all day...I really do prefer hot weather to cold.

Oh I like the 50's we have had here lately lol But in all honesty I don't know if my perfect weather place exists. I hate extreme heat but at the same time I hate extreme cold. I can't rule out ever moving somewhere and we gave Az some serious thought a few years back. I like the idea of getting my snow fix when I choose, but like I mentioned in my previous post. I love love love water! Just give me my house on my dream lake and I'll be happy. I'll deal with the cold so I can just walk down to the beach and be pulling the kids on the tube in minutes. Now all I need is a snowmobile and it will be all good.

[golgi1]

Originally Posted by Highpointer

People must be lazy or lack ambition, and would rather not work very hard. I want to work, work very hard and long hours, and earn lots of money.

I admire the people who are in the top 1% - I want to join them.

You must be young to be this idealistic and, no offense, naive.

Working hard does not correlate to lots of money. It can, but many other factors have to also be in place. Much of the time these factors are outside the control of the average person. These factors can include knowledge that isn't taught in schools, sometimes connections, start up money, job market growth and decline, and other factors. Many, many people work excessively hard to just get by. Many, many of those people thought at one time like yourself.

Its just annoying when people equate 'working hard' to the only thing that matters when it comes to making money. It insulates that the poor are lazy and the rich are not. This is excessively insulting and is a fallacy.

[Valley Native]

Originally Posted by golgi1

You must be young to be this idealistic and, no offense, naive.

Working hard does not correlate to lots of money. It can, but many other factors have to also be in place. Much of the time these factors are outside the control of the average person. These factors can include knowledge that isn't taught in schools, sometimes connections, start up money, job market growth and decline, and other factors. Many, many people work excessively hard to just get by. Many, many of those people thought at one time like yourself.

Its just annoying when people equate 'working hard' to the only thing that matters when it comes to making money. It insulates that the poor are lazy and the rich are not. This is excessively insulting and is a fallacy.

I think the point was how hard work is often attributed to success ... not exactly being rich. A person can be successful, but still considered middle income. Of course, there is nothing wrong with being wealthy either. Being poor is not always attributed to being lazy, but there are plenty of lower income people who buy things that they can't afford ... and then expect forgiveness, handouts & certain entitlements just because they exist. Nobody owes anybody anything just for being born.

Arizona as a state certainly has the potential for attracting more successful people who are business oriented, but that hasn't been the case. We have been focussed too heavily on attracting snowbirds, retirees, and malcontents searching for a sunny, dry climate. None of that has brought in the large corporations willing to locate their HQs here, or the higher paying positions that accompany them. We need to be more focussed on success, instead of just sunshine.