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View Poll Results: Should Arizona legalize prostitution/brothels?
Yes 75 58.14%
No 48 37.21%
Statewide 11 8.53%
Rural counties only 4 3.10%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 129. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-05-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Yuma and Walker, AZ
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Prostitution, sports gambling, marijuana...all should be legal. Legislating behavior simply because "I don't agree with it" doesn't cut it. As long as it doesn't directly affect or have significant risk to others, it should be legal.

A comparison I make would be that if the above should be illegal, then alcohol should be illegal. It's far more dangerous to others than prostitution, gambling or marijuana.... and nobody better come after my beer
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Old 03-07-2019, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Outside US
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Where I live there are many brothels, call girls and women who want to earn extra income. They don't do drugs nor smoke. There are no pimps.

No violence, no trafficking, no abuse.

Making it illegal attracts bad elements
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Old 05-14-2019, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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You know what...this is a really good idea. I think that there would be PLENTY of women that would be proud to be part of the "oldest profession". What this really needs is some structure, of course, so I think you ought to put together the certification curriculum for a professional prostitute.

You could start off with oral exams...like Certified Fellatio Associate or Certified Anilingus Associate...and for some girl/girl (or Man ***** varietal) specialists maybe Certified Cunnilingus Associate. Then maybe put together 3 different levels like "Associate/Expert/Professional".

Then you could move to other sex acts like...oh I don't know...certifications for different positions and/or expertise in certain areas. I am sure a professional prostitute would be extremely proud of their accomplishment and want to advertise properly...along with a "disease free" certification...although that may or may not be tricky considering their clientele may not be.

I know...maybe...to participate as a John...you have to have a license to receive services so one would have to be tested before engaging this upstanding (that isn't the right word is it?) profession.

Then, since this is legal, you could open a training school! Once they graduate, they could call themselves "Consorts" instead of a run-of-the-mill prostitute. You may have to reserve "Mistress" for one that has achieved the highest levels of certification in the BDSM arena though...

Great idea...we should have a license plate in the system as well...I am sure that having achieved such levels of professionalism in their chosen career path they would want to advertise on the back of their car. One time fee though...of course...unless there is a certain charity fund the specialty fee could go to. Oh, who am I kidding, of course there will be, the Cathouse Foundation...you know...helping with down on their luck Consorts.

Anyway...you sold me...I endorse this 100%. Wait till I tell my daughter about this amazing new opportunity for her.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Pinetop-Lakeside, AZ
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You know what...this is a really good idea. I think that there would be PLENTY of women that would be proud to be part of the "oldest profession". What this really needs is some structure, of course, so I think you ought to put together the certification curriculum for a professional prostitute.

You could start off with oral exams...like Certified Fellatio Associate or Certified Anilingus Associate...and for some girl/girl (or Man ***** varietal) specialists maybe Certified Cunnilingus Associate. Then maybe put together 3 different levels like "Associate/Expert/Professional".

Then you could move to other sex acts like...oh I don't know...certifications for different positions and/or expertise in certain areas. I am sure a professional prostitute would be extremely proud of their accomplishment and want to advertise properly...along with a "disease free" certification...although that may or may not be tricky considering their clientele may not be.

I know...maybe...to participate as a John...you have to have a license to receive services so one would have to be tested before engaging this upstanding (that isn't the right word is it?) profession.

Then, since this is legal, you could open a training school! Once they graduate, they could call themselves "Consorts" instead of a run-of-the-mill prostitute. You may have to reserve "Mistress" for one that has achieved the highest levels of certification in the BDSM arena though...

Great idea...we should have a license plate in the system as well...I am sure that having achieved such levels of professionalism in their chosen career path they would want to advertise on the back of their car. One time fee though...of course...unless there is a certain charity fund the specialty fee could go to. Oh, who am I kidding, of course there will be, the Cathouse Foundation...you know...helping with down on their luck Consorts.

Anyway...you sold me...I endorse this 100%. Wait till I tell my daughter about this amazing new opportunity for her.
I see what you did there . . . .
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Old 05-19-2019, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, Arizona
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It's not legal? crap
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:17 PM
 
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First it has to be state that it is a shame that some people feel like becoming a prostitute is the best or only way to earn a living. And that is more of a reflection on our own family values and society at large.


Now....
Its going to happen anyway, we have proven you can't outlaw sin.
So better to make it legal, regulate it, controlled with health standards and salary.
At least that will remove it from crime organizations and make it safer for the sex workers.
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:41 AM
 
Location: The end of the world
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No no no absolutely no.

My daughter/son ever wants to have a job in the adult industry it is not going to be with some piece of **** pimp. Absolutely no because we would have human rights violations on going. We already have sex-trafficking ( fake ID's with fake green cards and fake VISA EVEN IF THEY ARE %100 legit ), families raising daughters into pornstars ( which leads to prostitution eitherway ) and other adult venues. No absolutely no.

There is no safety at all. These women have people/pimps talking for them all the time. These might not be the stereotypical pimps but that is what it is. I know college girls who are well educated being used for sex even if they are well educated.

I have seen the opposite with men being taken advantaged of by women. There is no protection, there is no happy ending.

Your using somebody who is literally bred for sex.

You deserve to be arrested as with drug setups and the pedoboy meetups on the John Edward shows. You deserve to be arrested. Same with weed supporters*. Deserve to be arrested

It does not count when you have sex for money. Your a loser to accept this as norm. A true loser. Has nothing to do with religion.

* I know ex-drug dealers who was literally stereotypical drug dealers you see in 1980's tv. They basically survive and use there money to invest in housing and pretend it was hard work. They only stop dealing ( but still have the plants and products in storage ). They have tons of it and when I see a porn-star marketing weed and claiming it is the norm it is not the norm. It is wrong.
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Old 05-25-2019, 09:35 AM
 
Location: NNJ
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No no no absolutely no.

My daughter/son ever wants to have a job in the adult industry it is not going to be with some piece of **** pimp. Absolutely no because we would have human rights violations on going. We already have sex-trafficking ( fake ID's with fake green cards and fake VISA EVEN IF THEY ARE %100 legit ), families raising daughters into pornstars ( which leads to prostitution eitherway ) and other adult venues. No absolutely no.
Legalization of prostitution does not mean pimping, pandering, and human trafficking is legalized. It protects the right for two consenting adults to engage in sexual activities in private under their own agreements. From a labor standpoint, legalization of prostitution brings the business under pre-existing labor laws and thus maintains a certain level of human rights.

For example, Agriculture jobs are legal but slavery for agriculture remains illegal. Housekeeping jobs are legal but keeping a housekeeper against their will is illegal. Sex workers do not corner the market in human trafficking; it exists in agriculture, housekeeping, restaurant, nanny services, nail salons, etc.... All are legal labor types except sex work

Prostitution is just like any other form of labor and must be protected under labor laws. The fact that it remains illegal is the reason why it isn't protected by labor and rights laws and thus breeds human trafficking and victimization by pimps. You stated that there is no safety for them at all. Well the very laws you support are the cause. Prostitutes cannot free themselves from a pimp/trafficker nor report assault through law enforcement primarily because they themselves would be prosecuted for prostitution.

Another uninformed statement is equating drugs with prostitution. Prostitutes don't corner the market in drug abuse.... doctors and law enforcement are among the labor types that have the highest incidences of drug abuse. That in of itself isn't enough to justify violating the rights of two consenting adults.


These statements are among the biggest uninformed statement that is widely spread among the common population. I blame the informed on the media for perpetuating the notion that prostitution is the same as pimping and human trafficking... all for ratings. It also doesn't help non-sex-workers trapped in human trafficking because people don't look for it... they exist under your noses every day.... the lady doing your nails... or the nanny next door.

I am active supporter of the legalization of prostitution and so are my close friends who are sex workers. Just like many like us, we don't want to see the legalization of pimping, pandering, and street prostitution. I actually hate pimps and thankfully most that are close to me avoid them. What we want is to protect the individual rights and dominion over body. We are just regular people just like everyone else; no more or less problems like everyone else.

Please educate yourself on the topic beyond personal biases and what is fed in the media.

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Old 05-25-2019, 05:17 PM
 
Location: The end of the world
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Legalization of prostitution does not mean pimping, pandering, and human trafficking is legalized.
Yes it does. It means that your going to have a harder time controlling the following mentioned. Your letting in the snake and creating other problems. I prefer that we mean no excuses or even seasoning of excuses.

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It protects the right for two consenting adults to engage in sexual activities in private under their own agreements.
Lies. If you want to associate with somebody for sex in exchange for money then by all means you can do so. There is nothing stopping people irregardless of age to associate with each other. However if you start barking your mouth about your business that is your problem. I do not want hear the "agreement" bs. You have families who operate like this and many other people living blind about there situation. You want to make pornography then go right ahead but asides for prostitution the answer is no and no. You telling your children it is acceptable and no law can control that. I work right in front of police all day long and I have women co-workers literally saying what you said in front of them. Nobody cares to that principal mentioned. You have to be a loser to pay for sex. I have been approach many times and to be honest I am happier I do not play a part in somebodies downfall.

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From a labor standpoint, legalization of prostitution brings the business under pre-existing labor laws and thus maintains a certain level of human rights.
People already do this freely for a living. Many people do this to get by in big business and what you feel is a success is somebodies secret sleeping buddy. Again losers pay for sex. You take away money and it is a fight for resources. That person will live a clean life. We are not France dude.

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For example, Agriculture jobs are legal but slavery for agriculture remains illegal. Housekeeping jobs are legal but keeping a housekeeper against their will is illegal.
I am thinking about people who are well established and looks like your niece and nephew. Your thinking about busboys sister. You want to bang a maid then go find one who will show you a good time on the side. My father who hitting the house servants back when he was young. He said they were ugly but at least they want him and he wanted them. No money as it was clean fun. I see this banker guy in my area retired with two tall model bodied looking women walking his dog. I know they are for sex and in reality they are part of trafficking most likely. It is funny that he is jealous when he see me getting along with one of them. The point being he is a loser paying money for there time. Other become Arnold Schwarzenegger and buff the maid. However be sure to have lots of money, be really strong looking, and most importantly have the flex.

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Sex workers do not corner the market in human trafficking; it exists in agriculture, housekeeping, restaurant, nanny services, nail salons, etc.... All are legal labor types except sex work
You want to be boyftriend and girlfriends with whoever you do that. Tons of working girls from the places I ate for lunch hit on me. Again I want to win it and not buy it from them. Again it is a loser. You need to finess women and not

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Prostitution is just like any other form of labor and must be protected under labor laws. The fact that it remains illegal is the reason why it isn't protected by labor and rights laws and thus breeds human trafficking and victimization by pimps. You stated that there is no safety for them at all. Well the very laws you support are the cause.
The truth is that people live together like families. They know what they are doing. They know what it is about. They do not need protection because the type of people they associate with. IDK what world your from and I am not going into details but your not really understanding the way things are is the way they should stay. Again your a loser to associate with anybody for money. It is loser talk

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Prostitutes cannot free themselves from a pimp/trafficker
trafficking is not pimping. Also it carries a higher charge. Traffickers to them is the norm and that is how things are and do not change. However thanks to the advancement of technology it has spilled over in nations. This involves falsifications of ID, Birth-records, among other things. That is how big trafficking is. Prostitution and pimping is more of a lifestyle thing. It is more or less accepted among people and in reality the problem needs to stay illegal as well. Like pay tv. Say no to pay sex

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non-sex-workers trapped in human trafficking because people don't look for it... they exist under your noses every day.... the lady doing your nails... or the nanny next door.
Look HT people know what they are doing and they are not in danger and if so it is there own fault. Even if we legalize whatever that will only encourage the behavior. I am really tired of the stereotypes you give to peoples work. I worked taking care of people and nobody approached me for sex.

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I am active supporter of the legalization of prostitution and so are my close friends who are sex workers. Just like many like us, we don't want to see the legalization of pimping, pandering, and street prostitution.
What your asking for is the same thing. You just want to look cool and pretend you have somebody who likes you and pretend your walking down the red-carpet with escorts.
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We are just regular people just like everyone else; no more or less problems like everyone else
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Your a John or some poor fellow who could not snag a gal if it was trapped on a desert island. I say the same thing. It does not count if you pay for it
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Around and about
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I remember being with a Mexican cutie down in Mexico.
She wasn't being pimped out or anything.
She was making a little extra Christmas money for her 2 kids since her regular day time secretary job didn't pay enough.
A bit of a turn on playing Papa Noel and likewise it did my heart good to know I helped make a family's Christmas a little more merrier.
It was a happy ending for all.
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