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I have been to both KL and Manila (although not recently) and I'd imagine living in KL would be much easier than living in Manila. There's less poverty, much better public transport (including an actual train line to the airport), seems safer and cleaner, less pollution, much less traffic, etc.
There are advantages to Manila though, including better nightlife and better food choices. Also more affordable. Living in one of Manila's CBDs like BGC or Ortigas would be like living in a self-contained bubble where you surround yourself with modern first-world conveniences while pretending that the other half who lives in extreme poverty do not exist.
Like for real extreme poverty, the other half?? How i wish I was richer than those extreme other half, and I am not even than poor but not rich though. Id say your blowing it out, just because their houses are not that great looking as yours, they are already poor or extremely poor. There are factors that plays why they look poor but not really upon close introspection, that includes housing and poor govt policies. I know so many individuals in the US, they only look good and may seem not poor due to sound govt policies but in fact they are no better than the average poor in the Phils or Metro Manila. Not only US same with other countries.
If I have to give the proportion of economic classes in Metro Manila using letters, Id put it this way:
A+ -- 5% the elites, luxurious
A- --10% wealthy
B+ --15% comfortable to somehow rich
B- --20% comfortable but still a bit down the hierarchy
C+ --20% middle but struggling
C- --15% can sustain day to day but still poor
D+ --10% very poor
D- -- 5% extremely poor
A normal human can live in an area as large as the size of the main CBDs in Metro Manila. Its not that you will be travelling all day from end to end point of Metro Manila unless your house is from the north and you work at the south(which is an unwise decision in the first place who would that?). You just need to be wise and use common sense and Metro Manila would do great wonders.
Although personally I prefer the province to avoid pollution in very big cities(not just Manila I suppose). But I still love to visit Manila once in a while.
KL is much richer , much more organised , is cleaner , less crime . You won't see much poverty in KL compared to Manila. Malaysia as a country is much more richer and modern than Philippines.
Being richer is not only the factor that makes the world go round. Especially if they are not even THAT MUCH richer yet. So keep looking and enjoy travelling!
Did I read somewhere that KL has more crime percentage than Manila? Maybe I can keep looking for it.
Probably this one.
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Btw look at the comments here and it seems that KL isnt much safer as everybody is telling: omg
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[quote=neMarL;54067194]Being richer is not only the factor that makes the world go round. Especially if they are not even THAT MUCH richer yet. So keep looking and enjoy travelling!
Did I read somewhere that KL has more crime percentage than Manila? Maybe I can keep looking for it.
Probably this one.
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Btw look at the comments here and it seems that KL isnt much safer as everybody is telling: omg
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Malaysia's GDP per capita is 4 times bigger .
Malaysia = $12k
Philippines = $3.2k
It's also significantly ahead in Human Development Index . In Philippines you will encounter slums and extreme poverty which isn't that prevalent in Malaysia. Infrastructure is also miles better.
It's also significantly ahead in Human Development Index . In Philippines you will encounter slums and extreme poverty which isn't that prevalent in Malaysia. Infrastructure is also miles better.
Mind you those figures aren't that much in real life. And considering those figures has already been rebased. Wait for Phils to do the GDP rebasing lets see what the future holds.
And yes they also are miles ahead in debt to GDP ratio, lol.
One person in Malaysia has 4 times or more equivalent debt than a person in the Phils, goodluck!!
Mind you those figures aren't that much in real life. And considering those figures has already been rebased. Wait for Phils to do the GDP rebasing lets see what the future holds.
And yes they also are miles ahead in debt to GDP ratio, lol.
One person in Malaysia has 4 times or more equivalent debt than a person in the Phils, goodluck!!
Do I say richer? Nah superficial imo.
What is “mind you those figures aren’t that much in real life” supposed to mean?
It is very apparent on ground level that KL is a lot less impoverished than Manila is. The gdp per capita whether ppp or nominal are just a rough approximation and so it’s not an exact place A is 3.75x wealthier or more developed than place B, but it’s good for a rough approximation.
What’s in Manila’s favor is that it can be cheaper and the nightlife is a lot more vibrant, but it definitely has a lot more visible poverty and living standards on average seems notably lower.
At the moment, I’d rather live in Kuala Lumpur but Manila might clean up nicely in the coming years. Though if there was a pick of any major southeast Asian city, then Bangkok is easily my top pick above both.
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What is “mind you those figures aren’t that much in real life” supposed to mean?
It is very apparent on ground level that KL is a lot less impoverished than Manila is. The gdp per capita whether ppp or nominal are just a rough approximation and so it’s not an exact place A is 3.75x wealthier or more developed than place B, but it’s good for a rough approximation.
What’s in Manila’s favor is that it can be cheaper and the nightlife is a lot more vibrant, but it definitely has a lot more visible poverty and living standards on average seems notably lower.
At the moment, I’d rather live in Kuala Lumpur but Manila might clean up nicely in the coming years. Though if there was a pick of any major southeast Asian city, then Bangkok is easily my top pick above both.
Yeah for me it still is NOT THAT MUCH, but thats just me ok. I have nothing against your opinion. Let them enjoy that superficial wealth. Lets see what the future holds.
Yeah for me it still is NOT THAT MUCH, but thats just me ok. I have nothing against your opinion. Let them enjoy that superficial wealth. Lets see what the future holds.
Sure, that’s fine. After all, people naturally become accustomed to their surroundings. As an outsider, the differences seem very notable and immediate and I definitely prefer KL at this point, and outside of opinions, what attempts there have been to use metrics for comparison squarely has KL substantially wealthier and more developed right now, in the recent past, and likely in the near future.
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Yeah for me it still is NOT THAT MUCH, but thats just me ok. I have nothing against your opinion. Let them enjoy that superficial wealth. Lets see what the future holds.
Malaysia ranks 57th on Human Development Index while Philippines is 113 . That's a Huge Difference , a neutral Visitor notices it right away.
Just a mere .01 point addition to PH HDI and its already among countries with high human devt. Take for example South Africa which has the same HDI as the Philippines. Visit Johannesburg and it will give you vibe more developed than anywhere else in Malaysia regardless of how wide the inequality there. So hell yeah dont educate me when I say its not MUCH of a difference especially with the ever ballooning debt of truly asia. To each his own.
Yeah a normal visitor notices it right away superficially on the outside but a neighbor and long time keen is more apt and know better whats behind those glittering shimmering aesthetics deep inside.
Sorry to say this but for me Malaysia is the social climber of Southeast Asia. Sorry just my opinion.
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