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Old 01-01-2021, 10:51 AM
 
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I would have thought most Spanish Filipinos would have left after the Philippine War for Independence, not World War Two.
American actor Steve McQueen’s first wife was a Philippine mestiza.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkPf77RqL_M
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Old 01-01-2021, 11:29 AM
 
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I would have thought most Spanish Filipinos would have left after the Philippine War for Independence, not World War Two.
American actor Steve McQueen’s first wife was a Philippine mestiza.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkPf77RqL_M
No. A lot of Spaniards stayed in the Philippines during the American period, and actually a lot of them came during the American period because business was booming. There were also Germans too. Spanish-Filipinos often intermarried with German and Americans in the Philippines. There was no mass exodus of Spanish-Filipinos like Europeans in other former colonies in Asia. The Spanish-Filipinos mostly just absorbed into the general population, but some families kept marrying other Spanish families and/or other whites in the Philippines. So a few still look white today.

Some Spanish-Filipinos left much later, during the Marcos dictatorship, but that was more about Filipinos with money leaving in general, not specifically Spanish-Filipinos. Australia was a popular destination. Here's an example of a Filipino who went to Australia

All 4 of his grandparents were born in the Philippines, and he was also born in the Philippines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DfYEwgI_pc

But he's related to the Ayesa and Legarda families, and they still live in the Philippines for the most part. So that's what I mean when I say there wasn't a mass exodus. It wasn't like all the Spanish were kicked out.


And Steve McQueen's wife apparently comes from the Arrastia family, and she's related to Enrique Iglesias through his mom's side. Most of Enrique's mother side still lives in the Philippines and they look much more European than his mother. She looks mixed with Filipino, but the other Preyslers in the Philippines look like they never went close to a native Filipino

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Old 01-02-2021, 07:24 AM
 
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Oh yes, I know her! Her Tiktoks are really cool lmao. No idea she was mixed. Her last name is Tagalog.

Exactly.
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Old 01-02-2021, 08:46 AM
 
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Exactly.
Her new video. She's a very indigenous-looking Filipina, which is why they chose her to be in the video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsjlrOElwo8

So yeah, you can be completely Filipino-looking but still be heavily mixed
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Old 01-09-2021, 04:26 PM
 
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Spanish heritage is an interesting topic but the real wealth and power has always been with people of Chinese and Philippine ancestry. The same is true with many other counties in Asia.
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Old 01-09-2021, 04:44 PM
 
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Spanish heritage is an interesting topic but the real wealth and power has always been with people of Chinese and Philippine ancestry. The same is true with many other counties in Asia.

Always? I don't think so. The Chinese were the middlemen during the Spanish Era. They gradually climbed up the ladder. There are some "old money" Chinese mestizo families like the Ongpins, but most of the wealthy Chinese families like the Sys and Tans are "new money" families that came to the Philippines from China within the past 50-70 years. They were not wealthy in China
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Old 01-11-2021, 12:41 AM
 
Location: La Muy Noble Leal Ciudad de Iloilo
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What do you think of this study which said that Filipinos of pure European descent are 2.7% of the population, that there are Filipinos of Mestizo or Latin American descent at 12.7% of the population and even Native Americans at 7.3% and Africans at 4.5%, with the rest being Asian (South, East and Southeast Asian)?


Go MC, Jones AR, Algee-Hewitt B, Dudzik B, Hughes C (2019). "Classification Trends among Contemporary Filipino Crania Using Fordisc 3.1". Human Biology. University of Florida Press. 2 (4): 1–11. doi:10.5744/fa.2019.1005. Retrieved September 13, 2020. [Page 1] ABSTRACT: Filipinos represent a significant contemporary demographic group globally, yet they are underrepresented in the forensic anthropological literature. Given the complex population history of the Philippines, it is important to ensure that traditional methods for assessing the biological profile are appropriate when applied to these peoples. Here we analyze the classification trends of a modern Filipino sample (n = 110) when using the Fordisc 3.1 (FD3) software. We hypothesize that Filipinos represent an admixed population drawn largely from Asian and marginally from European parental gene pools, such that FD3 will classify these individuals morphometrically into reference samples that reflect a range of European admixture, in quantities from small to large. Our results show the greatest classification into Asian reference groups (72.7%), followed by Hispanic (12.7%), Indigenous American (7.3%), African (4.5%), and European (2.7%) groups included in FD3. This general pattern did not change between males and females. Moreover, replacing the raw craniometric values with their shape variables did not significantly alter the trends already observed. These classification trends for Filipino crania provide useful information for casework interpretation in forensic laboratory practice. Our findings can help biological anthropologists to better understand the evolutionary, population historical, and statistical reasons for FD3-generated classifications. The results of our studyindicate that ancestry estimation in forensic anthropology would benefit from population-focused research that gives consideration to histories of colonialism and periods of admixture"

https://www.academia.edu/38744342
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Old 01-11-2021, 01:13 AM
 
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^ 2.7% of the population are "pure Europeans"? Sounds like BS. That means you would be seeing pure European Filipinos all over the place. Probably not even 0.1% of the Filipino population are pure Europeans- unless you're counting Europeans who moved there.
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Old 01-11-2021, 01:57 AM
 
Location: La Muy Noble Leal Ciudad de Iloilo
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^ 2.7% of the population are "pure Europeans"? Sounds like BS. That means you would be seeing pure European Filipinos all over the place. Probably not even 0.1% of the Filipino population are pure Europeans- unless you're counting Europeans who moved there.
They used the Manila Cemetary as well as bodies curated from the University of the Philippines as the source of the samples.

Th Manila cemetary is hella old, from the Spanish era, it may have that large amount of European samples.
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Old 01-11-2021, 03:45 PM
 
Location: NNJ
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Long thread... not sure if someone already linked this other thread that is somewhat related:

https://www.city-data.com/forum/genea...a-results.html

This particular Filipino individuals DNA results (thanks for posting it btw) shows a small amount of European dna... which I found very interesting.

My aunt owns a girls boarding house for nursing schools. Long time ago i visited, but there were plenty of Europeans living there and studying nursing. Many end up residing in the Philippines. I also have a couple european ancestral cousins that apparently adopted into my family.
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