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It's a country of a billion people and has historically held a large population. No way to get that large if food issues were present. Maybe he was implying they can't produce enough food for their current population.
The same applies to energy. They are #14 in proven oil reserves and are #5 in oil production.
Though once again there is a imbalance between production and consumption.
Regarding water, the issue isn't a lack of water countrywide, but rather not having enough water in places of greatest need. Southern China is flush with water. Tibet has a lot of water. The West is dry, but it’s also a desert and doesn’t have as many people. Really it's only Northern China that faces water issues. I'm sure that can be fixed with pipelines.
It's a country of a billion people and has historically held a large population. No way to get that large if food issues were present. Maybe he was implying they can't produce enough food for their current population.
The same applies to energy. They are #14 in proven oil reserves and are #5 in oil production.
Though once again there is a imbalance between production and consumption.
Regarding water, the issue isn't a lack of water countrywide, but rather not having enough water in places of greatest need. Southern China is flush with water. Tibet has a lot of water. The West is dry, but it’s also a desert and doesn’t have as many people. Really it's only Northern China that faces water issues. I'm sure that can be fixed with pipelines.
I think they import food just to balance the trade deficit with the western nations. I can't think of anything else for them to import that are manufactured in the US other than food.
energy issues are also no issue with mega infrastructure projects and close relationship with the north and middle east
China import both energy and food. Not sure if energy are imported due to insufficient domestic supplies or other reasons.
Food is obviously imported due to cheaper costs and better quality or taste. Some rice are imported from cheaper countries to make rice noodles and "chang fen" . South and Southeast asian rice are sold cheaper than Chinese rice when shipping is not included. Soy is also imported in large quantities due to cheaper cost.
The food from western countries are mostly sold in the wealthier large cities not in most parts of Mainland China.
Western Europe is suffering from serious shortages and hyperinflation unlike Asia and North America.
The biggest blow to China - and the one they are trying to shore up now - is the coming plunge in working age people.
In 2011 there were 925M working age (15-64) people in China.
In 2050 there will be 700M. That's not a projection, that's a fact, and it's only 30 years away.
See the problem?...... How on earth can any country expect to keep pace when their working population has gone from 925M to 700M? 25% of their working population just GONE! And growing smaller still every year.
The biggest blow to China - and the one they are trying to shore up now - is the coming plunge in working age people.
In 2011 there were 925M working age (15-64) people in China.
In 2050 there will be 700M. That's not a projection, that's a fact, and it's only 30 years away.
See the problem?...... How on earth can any country expect to keep pace when their working population has gone from 925M to 700M? 25% of their working population just GONE! And growing smaller still every year.
wait till you check out the number for ***/kor, US and western countries like france (delaying retirement age for a reason)
to put into perspective, how many of those 925M are farmers? how many of those 700M would be in 2050
supply capacity can be replensih by Ai/machine. China or even most of the world probably don't need 700M working population by 2050 the way they are advancing.
wait till you check out the number for ***/kor, US and western countries like france (delaying retirement age for a reason)
to put into perspective, how many of those 925M are farmers? how many of those 700M would be in 2050
supply capacity can be replensih by Ai/machine. China or even most of the world probably don't need 700M working population by 2050 the way they are advancing.
The USA working age population is likely to increase, so what exactly should I look at? Sure, Korea is in big trouble, but that doesn't make China's situation any better.
Also, most of those 925 mill are not farmers, China is dependent on cheap labor for its factories and not all farmers want or can move to the cities. Robots won't come and save the day, it will just make the situation worse as it makes it easier for western countries to manufacture at home with the help of AI.
......... how many of those 925M are farmers? how many of those 700M would be in 2050
supply capacity can be replensih by Ai/machine. China or even most of the world probably don't need 700M working population by 2050 the way they are advancing.
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The USA working age population is likely to increase, so what exactly should I look at? Sure, Korea is in big trouble, but that doesn't make China's situation any better.
Also, most of those 925 mill are not farmers, China is dependent on cheap labor for its factories and not all farmers want or can move to the cities. Robots won't come and save the day, it will just make the situation worse as it makes it easier for western countries to manufacture at home with the help of AI.
Mao is whistling past the graveyard. More farmers or fewer farmers will not change anything.
China is a fraud who is buying time and trying to arrange its future as best it can. The best chance for long term success in China is to encourage Russia to fight until Russia is bankrupt. Then China will have access to the Siberian assets China very much needs.
Of course, China cannot be seen as encouraging a war, so it simply sends Xi to Russia to hold Putin's hand.
Talk of China ever becoming the dominating world power is baseless.
Mao is whistling past the graveyard. More farmers or fewer farmers will not change anything.
China is a fraud who is buying time and trying to arrange its future as best it can. The best chance for long term success in China is to encourage Russia to fight until Russia is bankrupt. Then China will have access to the Siberian assets China very much needs.
Of course, China cannot be seen as encouraging a war, so it simply sends Xi to Russia to hold Putin's hand.
Talk of China ever becoming the dominating world power is baseless.
they already are
they are already moving on from manufacturing cheap products to mega infrastructures.
China is a fraud who is buying time and trying to arrange its future as best it can.
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If manufacturing and making money is considered 'fraud' than China is a fraud. Many would say the same thing regarding the US and the fraudulent fed, or unsustainable debt load we continue to build.
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Talk of China ever becoming the dominating world power is baseless.
No. It is not baseless although I don't think they will become the ONLY world power. They already are one of the dominate forces of the world. The west will make sure to undermine their rise as best we can. The methods will be a combination of the usuals, war, excessive sanctions/restrictions, or claiming exaggerated human rights violations. China's rise of wealth and living standards at times comes at the expense of western wealth, and to a lesser extent living standards.
China the dominant economic or political power in the world? Only if they don't eviscerate themselves on Taiwan, just like Russia did in Ukraine.
I'm not optimistic that they'll avoid it.
Just look at all the China cheerleader's responses when I said Ukraine was a cautionary tale for Xi.
Then they'll blame the West for "making them do it", just like Putin.
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