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Old 08-06-2020, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Somewhere out there.
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Swindons roundabout.
A wonder to behold

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Old 08-06-2020, 11:10 AM
 
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Sounds like your friend doesn't understand roundabouts.
Of course take the inside lane. If you only ever used one lane, what would be the point in having 2 lanes?
It would only make sense if the roundabout only had one lane, then it would work.
Of course I live in America where roundabouts are referred to as traffic circles and nobody knows how to use them.
True. My wife and I are forever marveling at how people here don't seem to know how a roundabout works. How to navigate a roundabout. Sometimes funny. Sometimes perilous...
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Swindons roundabout.
A wonder to behold

https://youtu.be/6OGvj7GZSIo


https://youtu.be/D22BOOGbpFM


Where I live, they just replaced (a couple of weeks ago) a 4 way stop with a simple stop light. There have been a few bad crashes there since then.

Americans can't handle a 4 way stop with lights that tell you what to do and when you can do it.

This? 20 car pile up, every day.
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Old 08-06-2020, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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Of course I live in America where roundabouts are referred to as traffic circles and nobody knows how to use them.
What? come on, traffic circles are easy.

As you approach the entrance, you put the pedal to the metal and lay on the horn. Stay on the horn until you reach the point you want to exit. Easy peasy. (And it works even better if you have a big V-8 motor and rear-wheel drive, with tires screeching in a power-slide.)
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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What? come on, traffic circles are easy.

As you approach the entrance, you put the pedal to the metal and lay on the horn. Stay on the horn until you reach the point you want to exit. Easy peasy. (And it works even better if you have a big V-8 motor and rear-wheel drive, with tires screeching in a power-slide.)
Thankfully, we don't have them in Canada. We don't need to save space.
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Old 08-06-2020, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Sounds like your friend doesn't understand roundabouts.
Of course take the inside lane. If you only ever used one lane, what would be the point in having 2 lanes?
It would only make sense if the roundabout only had one lane, then it would work.
Of course I live in America where roundabouts are referred to as traffic circles and nobody knows how to use them.
In New Jersey we do, and we flip you the bird if you don't negotiate them properly. Same with jughandles. That's when you make a right to make a left.

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Old 08-07-2020, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Crossing lanes is what tends to cause trouble, especially if there is a lot of traffic. We happen to have a few where I live here, so I'm in and out of them pretty much every day...

Obviously, if you stay in the outer lane at a reasonable speed, there really should be no cause for concern unless someone else doesn't know how to drive in a roundabout. Are you suggesting they are simply going to drive into you because you happen to be in their way? That pretty well defies the whole right-of-way approach to a roundabout. If that's the case, they'll drive into you no matter what you are doing if you are in their way.

Not a whole lot of logic, reason or common sense needed as much as just a bit of good, safe driving, that involves yielding to others as appropriate.
No. What happens here is that if there are two lanes in and two lanes out, you can use both lanes if you are going straight ahead. The problem is when Johnny in the outside lane goes past the straight ahead exit to turn left (which he shouldn't be doing if he is turning left) and Fred in the inside lane, is going ahead (which he is entitled to do). Then Johnny who is turning left in the wrong lane gets T-Boned by Fred going straight ahead in his correct lane... because Fred is expecting Johnny to be going straight ahead and not turning left by crossing in front of him.

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Old 08-07-2020, 06:44 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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Sounds like your friend doesn't understand roundabouts.
Of course take the inside lane. If you only ever used one lane, what would be the point in having 2 lanes?
It would only make sense if the roundabout only had one lane, then it would work.
Of course I live in America where roundabouts are referred to as traffic circles and nobody knows how to use them.
Exactly! The process couldn't be easier if you follow the rules supported by logic, reason and common sense. Treat the roundabout as the face of a clock. If you are taking an exit before and including 12 o'clock, take the right-hand lane. If your exit is after 12 o'clock, take the left-hand lane and on passing the exit BEFORE the one you intend to take, move to the right-hand lane to exit. What is so difficult??
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Old 08-07-2020, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Harry old bean. How are you on driving regulations in Germany. I'm having a discussion about negotiating roundabouts. The guy says that, in Germany, if you are taking a left turn on a roundabout, or going all the way around to go back the way you came, you take the outside lane all the way around. I say it's the same as the rest of Europe in that you enter the roundabout and move to the inside lane. You stay in the inside lane until you pass the exit before the one you intend to take and then move to the outside lane to exit. Which is correct?
Neither, there is no special rule for this case. As you must indicate when you want to leave a roundabout, this will tell the driver waiting to join if they can or can not. So one can stay in the outside lane if there is too much traffic for someone to safely use the inner lane.
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Old 08-07-2020, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Germany
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My experience has been that it depends on the traffic conditions...

When there is a lot of traffic, the best approach is to enter to the outside and stay there until you exit the roundabout. When there is little-to-no traffic, going to the inside is more of an option if wanting to make it to your exit ASAP and/or avoid others coming into the roundabout. Of course the size of the roundabout makes a difference too. I've not heard there is different direction along these lines depending on which country you are in.
Correct.

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One thing I can also pass along. Don't exceed the speed limit even by just a little in the tunnels in Germany! I was amazed at how everyone was driving at exactly the same speed limit, and curious about the white flashes I kept seeing as I was driving just a bit faster than the others (while my wife was asleep in the passenger seat). Not too long after getting back, I overheard my wife on the phone arguing with the car rental company about us paying for tickets we never got while driving in Germany.

Suddenly it occurred to me what those flashes were all about...
Yes, we are very serious about this. Also on road works.
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