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Old 10-03-2018, 04:19 AM
 
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It may not be completely accurate. It is still more accurate than the Bible.
I just don't understand why it's such an important quote to Atheists today. I'm sure that lots of crazy things are said during times of war. Maybe the guy was actually an Atheist.

I really don't think that Atheists would have handle the Crusades any better than anyone else did.
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Old 10-03-2018, 04:25 AM
 
Location: Germany
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I just don't understand why it's such an important quote to Atheists today. I'm sure that lots of crazy things are said during times of war. Maybe the guy was actually an Atheist.
I was talking about Mircea's post.

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I really don't think that Atheists would have handle the Crusades any better than anyone else did.
Do you think atheists would have started wars to make the 'Holy lands' Christian again?
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Old 10-03-2018, 04:57 AM
 
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Do you think atheists would have started wars to make the 'Holy lands' Christian again?
Atheists are at least as responsible for war as anyone else.
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Old 10-03-2018, 05:51 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Atheists are at least as responsible for war as anyone else.
As are people who eat cucumbers. But somehow I think you will not get that point either.
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Old 10-03-2018, 05:52 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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I'm usually just responding to ignorant statements. But I'm not trying to convert anyone.
But that wasn't an ignorant statement. It was essentially correct. I suspect that this is another translation - issue: "Ignorant" translates as "Unwelcome". And I can't recall seeing you siding with atheists here in correcting ignorant statements by the theist apologetic side. A bias of yours towards Christianity is becoming quite evident and i'm just curious about the reasons why people who should see the harm Christianity has done in the past (rather than laugh it off "Heard that so many times" and 'Everybody did that sort of thing' which is true enough, but shouldn't we expect better from Christianity if the book is supposed to be such a fine guide to life?) and is still doing today should should be fighting atheism (obviously you couldn't make a case for conversion here; you tried and failed) and I'm rather curious abut just what it is about this blasted religion that has you battling atheism like this.

You are far from being the only one. I'm becoming astonished at the number of serious doubters who nevertheless battle atheism as fiercely as any Christian apologist.

I have to mention what I am very soon going to call the Stavrakopoulu syndrome as someone who is an atheist is nevertheless battling atheism, and we know why. She loves the book and is fascinated by it, and is pissed that atheism is going all - out to destroy it as a book that is culturally important to the West. Is that your problem, too?
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I'm usually just responding to ignorant statements. But I'm not trying to convert anyone.
Yes you are.
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Old 10-03-2018, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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I just don't understand why it's such an important quote to Atheists today. I'm sure that lots of crazy things are said during times of war. Maybe the guy was actually an Atheist.

I really don't think that Atheists would have handle the Crusades any better than anyone else did.
Why would atheists be on the Crusades?
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Old 10-03-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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But that wasn't an ignorant statement. It was essentially correct. I suspect that this is another translation - issue: "Ignorant" translates as "Unwelcome". And I can't recall seeing you siding with atheists here in correcting ignorant statements by the theist apologetic side. A bias of yours towards Christianity is becoming quite evident and i'm just curious about the reasons why people who should see the harm Christianity has done in the past (rather than laugh it off "Heard that so many times" and 'Everybody did that sort of thing' which is true enough, but shouldn't we expect better from Christianity if the book is supposed to be such a fine guide to life?) and is still doing today should should be fighting atheism (obviously you couldn't make a case for conversion here; you tried and failed) and I'm rather curious abut just what it is about this blasted religion that has you battling atheism like this.

You are far from being the only one. I'm becoming astonished at the number of serious doubters who nevertheless battle atheism as fiercely as any Christian apologist.

I have to mention what I am very soon going to call the Stavrakopoulu syndrome as someone who is an atheist is nevertheless battling atheism, and we know why. She loves the book and is fascinated by it, and is pissed that atheism is going all - out to destroy it as a book that is culturally important to the West. Is that your problem, too?

lmao. we put our claims through the same rigor we put their claims through. You don't do that. You jump on peoples side based on t-shirt colors, not evidence. no matter how crazy the claim, if the person is wearing "kill religious", you're on board.

you can't conceive of the problem of 'that there evil god" problem has to be stacked up with the equally silly claim of "that there loving god".

you aren't interested in how the universe works, you are interested in pushing your anti-religious statement of belief on others. Any 1/2 witt knows that freedom of religion shows the intellectual and emotional maturity of a group of people.

once you get your way, you will turn on the rest of us "live and let live" types. well, unless they submit to your base faith statement that is.
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Old 10-03-2018, 04:35 PM
 
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But that wasn't an ignorant statement. It was essentially correct. I suspect that this is another translation - issue: "Ignorant" translates as "Unwelcome". And I can't recall seeing you siding with atheists here in correcting ignorant statements by the theist apologetic side. A bias of yours towards Christianity is becoming quite evident and i'm just curious about the reasons why people who should see the harm Christianity has done in the past (rather than laugh it off "Heard that so many times" and 'Everybody did that sort of thing' which is true enough, but shouldn't we expect better from Christianity if the book is supposed to be such a fine guide to life?) and is still doing today should should be fighting atheism (obviously you couldn't make a case for conversion here; you tried and failed) and I'm rather curious abut just what it is about this blasted religion that has you battling atheism like this.

You are far from being the only one. I'm becoming astonished at the number of serious doubters who nevertheless battle atheism as fiercely as any Christian apologist.

I have to mention what I am very soon going to call the Stavrakopoulu syndrome as someone who is an atheist is nevertheless battling atheism, and we know why. She loves the book and is fascinated by it, and is pissed that atheism is going all - out to destroy it as a book that is culturally important to the West. Is that your problem, too?
I'm not an Atheist so I don't think the same way she does. I can't speak for someone like that although I have appreciated her work, as it was from her that I first heard about the Garden of Eden representing the temple. That opened up the Old Testament and the New Testament for me. But even you can't deny that the Bible is an interesting subject, or at least it should be for anyone living in the west, as if you didn't understand why any nonbeliever would find it interesting. And like I've said before, I think it contains a lot of truth written by fellow Theists.
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Old 10-03-2018, 04:38 PM
 
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lmao. we put our claims through the same rigor we put their claims through. You don't do that. You jump on peoples side based on t-shirt colors, not evidence. no matter how crazy the claim, if the person is wearing "kill religious", you're on board.

you can't conceive of the problem of 'that there evil god" problem has to be stacked up with the equally silly claim of "that there loving god".

you aren't interested in how the universe works, you are interested in pushing your anti-religious statement of belief on others. Any 1/2 witt knows that freedom of religion shows the intellectual and emotional maturity of a group of people.

once you get your way, you will turn on the rest of us "live and let live" types. well, unless they submit to your base faith statement that is.
I have to agree in part. There does seem to be a lot of acceptance on this sub-forum of any idea that comes with an atheist label.
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