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Old 05-11-2020, 03:05 AM
 
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IWas does seem fascinated by atheism much more than most atheists I know. Perhaps they are compensating for their doubt.
Ah gatta dream, terday...that Iwash would do a Northsouth and see the light (that previously she thought was darkness ) and become the decent, rational person that she always was, but Religious Faith had suppressed that part of the online personality, just as we see in the ongoing dishonesty, idiot arguments and toxic malice of the Biblesuckers that post here.
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Old 05-11-2020, 03:00 PM
 
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The material world is the default position - it obviously exists. If the fool who thinks otherwise wants to demonstrate something more - supernatural - then he can shut up with his constant crying about atheism and just do it. He has failed so many times all he has is misrepresentation and diversions.
Given this post, what seems to be common among materialism advocates and atheists is the demand that their unsupportable position be the default to avoid having to support it.
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Old 05-11-2020, 04:10 PM
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Given this post, what seems to be common among materialism advocates and atheists is the demand that their unsupportable position be the default to avoid having to support it.


So you don't think that the material world exists - ok. And you think that Iwas's comment about atheism is legit - ok!

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Old 05-11-2020, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Given this post, what seems to be common among materialism advocates and atheists is the demand that their unsupportable position be the default to avoid having to support it.
There are many religious people who are also very materialistic.
And there are many non-religious people who are not very materialistic.
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Old 05-11-2020, 04:38 PM
 
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So you don't think that the material world exists - ok. And you think that Iwas's comment about atheism is legit - ok!
Your conclusions are too simplistic and seem devoid of any understanding of the actual composition of our Reality.
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Old 05-11-2020, 05:01 PM
 
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Given this post, what seems to be common among materialism advocates and atheists is the demand that their unsupportable position be the default to avoid having to support it.
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There are many religious people who are also very materialistic.
And there are many non-religious people who are not very materialistic.
Materialism is a philosophy about the composition of our Reality, not a materialistic focus on material goods and services. It is the assumption of the default position despite ignorance without supporting evidence that is the common thread between materialism and atheism.
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Old 05-11-2020, 05:19 PM
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Your conclusions are too simplistic and seem devoid of any understanding of the actual composition of our Reality.
Devoid of understanding of the actual composition of reality - well then let's see some of that demonstration of the actual composition of reality, your view, that you keep complaining that we can't provide for ours. Now don't be a hypocrite and get busy. We will all be waiting! Stop and do it just like I said.
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Old 05-11-2020, 05:25 PM
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Materialism is a philosophy about the composition of our Reality, not a materialistic focus on material goods and services. It is the assumption of the default position despite ignorance without supporting evidence that is the common thread between materialism and atheism.
It is the default position: The material world is here it exists - you believe in it right? If you wish to claim more then show that there is more to it than the energy/material aspects of it which are fundamental - please proceed. Otherwise, you are just hot air

I/we don't claim that it can't be possible that there is more - we just want you guys to stop crying about us thinking that it is - that is just an excuse to not demonstrate your own claim. Until then our position is reality and the default. As such it is you who are ignorant and have no evidence - ignorance is not evidence - ours nor yours.
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Old 05-11-2020, 05:26 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Materialism is a philosophy about the composition of our Reality, not a materialistic focus on material goods and services. It is the assumption of the default position despite ignorance without supporting evidence that is the common thread between materialism and atheism.
My mistake. I was basing my response of the dictionary definition: a tendency to consider material possessions and physical comfort as more important than spiritual values.
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Old 05-11-2020, 05:46 PM
 
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My mistake. I was basing my response of the dictionary definition: a tendency to consider material possessions and physical comfort as more important than spiritual values.
It is a common mistake, phet.
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