Real talk about sprawl (Atlanta, Alpharetta: big house, utilities, square footage)

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by Onthemove2014

This is what I have been saying all along, but I get talked down to like some looser on this site because I am in my 20s and haven't gotten children and a house in the burbs. Thank you for showing the older gen what the younger people REALLY care about.

Same old scenario in each generation, this is nothing new. My three older brothers all lived intown in the 70s and 80s after finishing college, two from Georgia State, one from Tech. The one at Tech lived near campus and then off Lenox for several years before the babies started coming, then to Douglasville in the 80s and finally Marietta. One lived on Euclid Avenue in Little 5 points in his 20s then somewhere off North Druid Hills, first kid came and the were back to rural Meriwether County to the homeplace. The third lived in Lake Claire until the mid 80s and then when the kids started coming moved to Smyrna for 10 years before a job offer took him to the Raleigh area.

There is nothing new under the sun, grasshopper.

[GeorgiaLakeSearch]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

Same old scenario in each generation, this is nothing new. My three older brothers all lived intown in the 70s and 80s after finishing college, two from Georgia State, one from Tech. The one at Tech lived near campus and then off Lenox for several years before the babies started coming, then to Douglasville in the 80s and finally Marietta. One lived on Euclid Avenue in Little 5 points in his 20s then somewhere off North Druid Hills, first kid came and the were back to rural Meriwether County to the homeplace. The third lived in Lake Claire until the mid 80s and then when the kids started coming moved to Smyrna for 10 years before a job offer took him to the Raleigh area.

There is nothing new under the sun, grasshopper.

I disagree!

I am in my forties and have been living ITP from the time I started college at Emory at eighteen. And I am married, we have three children, a dog, a house, a yard with pool, great schools, access to shopping, great restaurants, arts/theatre, charity events, golf, tennis, and all this is ITP!

I have lived in Ansley Park, Druid Hills, Buckhead, and Cascade in a rental property of mine(just for a short amount of time because I had sold my house and was renovating the next).

Not all people who have children leave the city.

And I did not grow up in a suburb or exurb. I grew up in Manhattan.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaLakeSearch

I disagree!

I am in my forties and have been living ITP from the time I started college at Emory at eighteen. And I am married, we have three children, a dog, a house, a yard with pool, great schools, access to shopping, great restaurants, arts/theatre, charity events, golf, tennis, and all this is ITP!

I have lived in Ansley Park, Druid Hills, Buckhead, and Cascade in a rental property of mine(just for a short amount of time because I had sold my house and was renovating the next).

Not all people who have children leave the city.

And I did not grow up in a suburb or exurb. I grew up in Manhattan.

Sounds like your disposable income exceeds that of me and my brothers. We could not afford to raise families in these neighborhoods. Not that I demean you for this in any way, maybe a little envious tho.... All of us could afford these areas as singles or DINKs, but when it came time to raise a family, there weren't the affordable options in these areas as we found in the burbs.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

Same old scenario in each generation, this is nothing new. My three older brothers all lived intown in the 70s and 80s after finishing college, two from Georgia State, one from Tech. The one at Tech lived near campus and then off Lenox for several years before the babies started coming, then to Douglasville in the 80s and finally Marietta. One lived on Euclid Avenue in Little 5 points in his 20s then somewhere off North Druid Hills, first kid came and the were back to rural Meriwether County to the homeplace. The third lived in Lake Claire until the mid 80s and then when the kids started coming moved to Smyrna for 10 years before a job offer took him to the Raleigh area.

There is nothing new under the sun, grasshopper.

I think that's been changing in the past few decades. A lot of families with children are choosing to live intown these days. Part of the reason is that the schools have gotten so much better. There are also a lot of intown neighborhoods with strong youth sports programs and other amenities that appeal to families.

You don't have to move to the burbs to find strong family oriented neighborhoods anymore.

[Saintmarks]

Originally Posted by arjay57

I think that's been changing in the past few decades. A lot of families with children are choosing to live intown these days. Part of the reason is that the schools have gotten so much better. There are also a lot of intown neighborhoods with strong youth sports programs and other amenities that appeal to families.

You don't have to move to the burbs to find strong family oriented neighborhoods anymore.

You do if you are on a budget. I bought a 60s era updated custom built 3/2 ranch on a full finished basement and 3/4 acre secluded lot in Marietta in the early 90s for just over 100k. I had a friend spend twice that on a 2 bedroom cottage in the Peachtree Hills neighborhood that the same year.;

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by Saintmarks

You do if you are on a budget. I bought a 60s era updated custom built 3/2 ranch on a full finished basement and 3/4 acre secluded lot in Marietta in the early 90s for just over 100k. I had a friend spend twice that on a 2 bedroom cottage in the Peachtree Hills neighborhood that the same year.;

Oh, no doubt there's a price differential.

However, these days there are a lot of youngish folks who can not only swing it but who think it's worth the difference.

Maybe this is the difference. Let's say a couple with two children is thinking about spending $350,000 on a house. They could find a great place in Alpharetta, but they could also find a great place in Oakhurst or Brookhaven. Obviously that's a subjective judgment based on many factors, but the default is not necessarily the suburbs.

[cqholt]

Thank you for showing the older gen what the younger people REALLY care about.

That's cause Fox News won't report on something like these because it would upset their target demographics.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by Onthemove2014

This is what I have been saying all along, but I get talked down to like some looser on this site because I am in my 20s and haven't gotten children and a house in the burbs. Thank you for showing the older gen what the younger people REALLY care about.

Food for thought:


Millennials

The Millennial Metropolis | Newgeography.com

[cqholt]

Article says short commutes, something most Atlanta suburbs don't offer.

[10 feet tall]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Oh, no doubt there's a price differential.

However, these days there are a lot of youngish folks who can not only swing it but who think it's worth the difference.

Maybe this is the difference. Let's say a couple with two children is thinking about spending $350,000 on a house. They could find a great place in Alpharetta, but they could also find a great place in Oakhurst or Brookhaven. Obviously that's a subjective judgment based on many factors, but the default is not necessarily the suburbs.

Brookhaven is great if you are in Mongomery Elementary, but if you are not or when you're kids finish elementary school you have to factor in $$$ for private school, which is not a factor in Alpharetta (to use your example). And even these days I think that 350K buys a lot less in Brookhaven than Alpharetta. I don't know Oakhurst as well so I can't comment there.