New Falcons Stadium Approved by City Council (Atlanta: train, car)

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by Zanarkand A East

I remember this one time someone said, "no way Atlanta ever hosts the Olympics."

Fine, then where the hell is a spur going to come from? You can't tie a spur into the existing North or West lines without serious disruption of existing infrastructure. Even if you could, the cost of it would be astronomical, and MARTA doesn't have the money.

Any transit connection to the north side is going to be LRT or streetcar, neither of which is as optimal as the current setup of two HRT MARTA stations within a few hundred feet of the Dome's gates. Marginalizing that connection will probably add thousands of vehicles to the area during events on an already overburdened road network. Hence for the Falcons and the GWCCA to place a billion dollar stadium that will seat 70,000 people farther away from MARTA is outright foolish.

[CCATL]

It's official - the stadium will be on the North Site.

"The Georgia World Congress Center Authority today informed Mount Vernon Baptist Church by letter Thursday that it is “officially terminating negotiations” and “abandoning its efforts” to acquire the church on the preferred site of the new Atlanta Falcons stadium, according to documents obtained by The Atlanta Journal Constitution."

GWCCA breaks off negotiations with church on stadium site | www.ajc.com

[Atlwarrior]

Why not also extend the street cars to the stadium, like San Diego has its trolley train go to Qualcomm Stadium.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by Atlwarrior

Why not also extend the street cars to the stadium, like San Diego has its trolley train go to Qualcomm Stadium.

Who would pay for it?

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by CCATL

It's official - the stadium will be on the North Site.

"The Georgia World Congress Center Authority today informed Mount Vernon Baptist Church by letter Thursday that it is “officially terminating negotiations” and “abandoning its efforts” to acquire the church on the preferred site of the new Atlanta Falcons stadium, according to documents obtained by The Atlanta Journal Constitution."

GWCCA breaks off negotiations with church on stadium site | www.ajc.com

[alco89]

Originally Posted by Atlwarrior

Why not also extend the street cars to the stadium, like San Diego has its trolley train go to Qualcomm Stadium.

Yea but I doubt many people use that to go to their games



19,000 parking spaces, and they fill it up! And this picture doesn't even show the full extent of it. This is a parking lot Atlanta has never seen before.

This stadium is not close to San Diego's core like our new stadium will be, so we don't have that kind of space to work with. We simply need high capacity transit in our situation, and I just don't see as many people using MARTA anymore with the stadium being a half mile further away. Argue all you want, but those are the facts. Oh well, it'll be interesting to see what (if any) solutions are thought up...

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by alco89

... and I just don't see as many people using MARTA anymore with the stadium being a half mile further away. Argue all you want, but those are the facts. Oh well, it'll be interesting to see what (if any) solutions are thought up...

If you take MARTA I assume tailgating is out, isn't it?

[alco89]

Originally Posted by arjay57

If you take MARTA I assume tailgating is out, isn't it?

No. My group of about 30-40 people meet up to tailgate and only 3 or 4 of those people actually drive in to park, set up the grill, etc. A lot of us use MARTA

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by Gulch

No way MARTA builds an HRT spur line there (nor should they).

They oughta consider it, but only as a project for the distant future. Also, it could run through Five Points and onward to Turner Field. (Too bad THAT wasn't around during the Olympics!)

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by Gulch

Fine, then where the hell is a spur going to come from? You can't tie a spur into the existing North or West lines without serious disruption of existing infrastructure. Even if you could, the cost of it would be astronomical, and MARTA doesn't have the money.

Any transit connection to the north side is going to be LRT or streetcar, neither of which is as optimal as the current setup of two HRT MARTA stations within a few hundred feet of the Dome's gates. Marginalizing that connection will probably add thousands of vehicles to the area during events on an already overburdened road network. Hence for the Falcons and the GWCCA to place a billion dollar stadium that will seat 70,000 people farther away from MARTA is outright foolish.

http://goo.gl/maps/BvvcV

when the dome goes down, that adds to the existing space that could be used to build a west midtown line. make it a spur off of the west line between the dome station and the vine city station. it's not too hard, really. passengers could board at the same place at five points station as they did when the dome was there, only they'd have to go one station further.

it wouldn't require any modification of any stations, you'd just wait for the 'stadium' or 'west midtown' train on the west platform at five points, just like you do when you wait for the north springs line at lindbergh.