MARTA to make an $8 billion pitch to change the face of Atlanta (Roswell: commuting, county)

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by arjay57

It's not fair to compare the ATL with Portland. While they are the same physical size as the COA, they have nearly 50% more people living there. They've also had steady population growth and did not experience decades of population loss and disinvestment like we did.

Portland has other issues as well.

Also, there demographics are nowhere near as diverse as Atlanta.

[primaltech]

Every time anyone compares Atlanta with any other city, it's always "not fair". How about we just admit that we do not compare favorably and have so much to work on in a lot of categories, but we are also a great city, *potential* top tier major city, something that a much smaller Portland will not ever be.

Our projected 8 billion regional population is no joke. Just need to figure out how to make that a livable metropolis, not a giant suburb where everything is designed to automobile-scale, and there's no smart mobility or options.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Every time anyone compares Atlanta with any other city, it's always "not fair". How about we just admit that we do not compare favorably and have so much to work on in a lot of categories, but we are also a great city, *potential* top tier major city, something that a much smaller Portland will not ever be.

Our projected 8 billion regional population is no joke. Just need to figure out how to make that a livable metropolis, not a giant suburb where everything is designed to automobile-scale, and there's no smart mobility or options.

Portland benefits from being in a liberal state as well. Atlanta constantly butts head with the state legislature on ideology.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by primaltech

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OTP sprawl is just an excuse, it could still be well covered by park ride stations, and buses. They'd just have to, you know, have MARTA.

^^^
This.




We need:


1. Commuter Rail to outer suburbs and exurbs.
2. Heavy Rail/Light Metro to mid-suburbs.
3. A major expansion of the bus network.

[Mutiny77]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Portland benefits from being in a liberal state as well. Atlanta constantly butts head with the state legislature on ideology.

I think that's Atlanta's/MARTA's biggest hindrance myself.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Portland benefits from being in a liberal state as well. Atlanta constantly butts head with the state legislature on ideology.

New York has the same city/state problem as well, and it's hardly a bastion of conservatism.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Every time anyone compares Atlanta with any other city, it's always "not fair". How about we just admit that we do not compare favorably and have so much to work on in a lot of categories, but we are also a great city, *potential* top tier major city, something that a much smaller Portland will not ever be.

Our projected 8 billion regional population is no joke. Just need to figure out how to make that a livable metropolis, not a giant suburb where everything is designed to automobile-scale, and there's no smart mobility or options.

Places like Portland have their own issues.

The White City | Newgeography.com

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Places like Portland have their own issues.

The White City | Newgeography.com

Interesting...

[primaltech]

Did you guys all see this? Lots of good info about the proposed MARTA plans in here, straight from the source.

https://cmgajccommuting.files.wordpr...12-15-2015.pdf

Of news to me is that it looks like the Blue line extension west to 285 could actually happen, which I really like. Also details about where all kinds of new bus routes and BRT/rapid bus lines would be.

And I would actually be fine with the BRT along 400N to Windward, though I would still prefer HRT.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by primaltech

Did you guys all see this? Lots of good info about the proposed MARTA plans in here, straight from the source.

https://cmgajccommuting.files.wordpr...12-15-2015.pdf

Of news to me is that it looks like the Blue line extension west to 285 could actually happen, which I really like. Also details about where all kinds of new bus routes and BRT/rapid bus lines would be.

And I would actually be fine with the BRT along 400N to Windward, though I would still prefer HRT.

MARTA will lose riders if they implement BRT along 400 north, even if it has it's own lanes (which I doubt).