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Old 03-25-2019, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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Agreed.

I'm sure Dawsonville is a nice place and all on its own, but I have no question most of the people even considering investing, living or doing business there only do so because of their ties to Atlanta and its big city amenities.
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Well, sure you are right. They aren't gonna build this thing in Americus. But, that doesn't mean that it is Atlanta sprawl.
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All due respect, why wouldn’t it be? If it’s influences originate from Atlanta, why would it not be considered sprawl? Dawson doesn’t have a Gainesville like Hall or am Athens like Clarke. Dahlonega is not really an influence from Lumpkin and Dawsonville itself is a small town.

Help me understand this. Maybe I’m missing something.
The distance from Atlanta is not what is happening here. it is the distance from job centers in Alpharetta. If Alpharetta weren't a decent straight shot, nothing would be happening in Dawson.

My home county of Meriwether is just as far from downtown, much closer to the airport, but it is the opposite direction from where the center of Atlanta metro jobs are consolidating. it is as close to growth in places like Newnan and PTC as Dawson is to Alpharetta, but as well as Newnan and PTC have done, they aren't bringing in the employment centers like North Fulton cities have done.
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Old 03-25-2019, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Georgia native in McKinney, TX
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I kind of agree. I mean, how many people are really going to move all the way up to Dawsonville to commute down to Atlanta every day? I mean, this development is the same distance from Downtown as the Alabama state line, Madison, Adairsville, Pendergrass, and Hogansville.

Sure, pretty much everything within 100 miles of Atlanta is probably somewhat related to Atlanta being there. I mean, hell...when I went to Auburn, we knew that Atlanta was there and that it was the big city where we went for big events, but it's not like everything that happened there was due to Atlanta being around.

I call it tangentially-related, but not quite sprawl. However, I do question such a large development in Dawsonville.
Posted the above before I saw this. My hometown of Hogansville got mentioned. And no, there aren't a lot of people that are driving from Hogansville to downtown Atlanta everyday.... even though this is happening... but there are PLENTY of people driving to Newnan for work. The bulk of these people will be driving to Alpharetta, Roswell, Gainesville, and even Forsyth for jobs.... not downtown Atlanta.
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:17 PM
 
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People have lost their minds in this thread.

Also, I had no idea Dawsonville had such a demand for Chinese products.
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Old 03-27-2019, 02:09 AM
 
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People have lost their minds in this thread...
Thanks for your provocative, well thought out contribution!
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Old 03-27-2019, 06:55 PM
 
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It may technically be sprawl but it least it's not a strip mall + a cookie-cutter subdivision full of cul-de-sacs.
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Old 03-27-2019, 06:57 PM
 
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[quote=ATL Also, I had no idea Dawsonville had such a demand for Chinese products.[/QUOTE]

....what?
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Old 03-27-2019, 10:46 PM
 
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It may technically be sprawl but it least it's not a strip mall + a cookie-cutter subdivision full of cul-de-sacs.
...Yet...

At the rate Forsyth County is building out, it won't be long.
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Old 03-28-2019, 08:06 AM
 
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...Yet...

At the rate Forsyth County is building out, it won't be long.
I'm talking about this particular development. Although there will undoubtedly be more typical subdivisions and strip malls up that way, depending on how well Etowah Village does, it could set the tone for many developments that follow.
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Old 03-28-2019, 08:26 AM
 
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I'm talking about this particular development. Although there will undoubtedly be more typical subdivisions and strip malls up that way, depending on how well Etowah Village does, it could set the tone for many developments that follow.
It speaks more to these types of development simply being the flavor of the day (same thing with all of the food halls).

In the 70s - 90s, it was indoor shopping malls and subdivision.

Now with the desire for a more urban environments snd the shift towards online retail, developers are now building lifestyle centers and walkable mixed use villages.

Who knows what the flavor of the day will be when it comes to these types of developments a decade from now.
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Old 03-28-2019, 10:02 AM
 
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It speaks more to these types of development simply being the flavor of the day (same thing with all of the food halls).

In the 70s - 90s, it was indoor shopping malls and subdivision.

Now with the desire for a more urban environments snd the shift towards online retail, developers are now building lifestyle centers and walkable mixed use villages.

Who knows what the flavor of the day will be when it comes to these types of developments a decade from now.
I don't see more walkable developments (mixed-use/New Urbanist/TND) falling out of favor given broader trends related to fossil fuel consumption, technological advancements in transportation, and climate change. We're getting better at building more sustainable developments, even if incrementally.
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