If White Flight Never Happened... (Griffin, Buckhead: living in, dangerous, safety)

[Brillemeister]

Originally Posted by equinox63

Think about it. If there were problems with crime, the school system, or any other civic problem in a predominately white metro atlanta community, the people would collectively get together and get it done ASAP. Problems occur in the black community and rarely even get done (at least in an efficient manner). Why? Little to no unity.

I thought it was the "stop snitching" mantra?

[AcidSnake]

Totally agree with this comment. I would build on it further and say that it's benign neglect like that which allows hateful attitudes, self-destructive behaviors, and violent pathologies to fester and spread like a virus. Events like 9/11 should have shown the spotlight on what happens when you ignore the problems of people in world even as your lifestyle in part contributes to those problems.

The ideologies of extremism, poverty culture, and gang warfare win whenever we normal citizens of the United States refuse to reach across the aisle to shake each other's hand in fellowship and in love. Al Qaeda wins not through military action, but through having an ideology... as twisted as it is, that fills the void of loneliness and disenfranchisement.

America and the citizens who TRULY believe in the ideals that created this country must show that its ideology is better, that it can stand the test of time. But as long as us Americans continue to run away from each other, the madness will continue.

Just my two cents.

Originally Posted by equinox63

I'm not saying unify and go against whites. The KKK unitifed to terrorize and murder blacks. But your (all white or all black) PTA fight for what's best for children in that particular school. The thing is, there are a whole lot more all white PTA's than all black PTA's in relation to the applicable community.

I think the current culture and its glamorization of thug-like behavior comes from the ills of the black community (and it's exploitation). If we unified for a collective good, the thug-like culture, baby mama, out on my own, single parent, fragmented family culture would start to go away and put us collectively on higher ground.

The reason why blacks need to unify moreso than whites is because they have struggled and been through more as a people, but are systematically turned against one another anyway. This explains the black-on-black crime, high incarceration rates, high drop-out rates, high teen-pregnancy rates, and high rate of single parenthood. If Blacks don't collectively do something about it, who will? You?

I think its irresponsible to know what blacks have collectively gone through and are going through today and say, "Hey, not my responsiblity. You're on your own, brother...". Its not supposed to be normal and accepted for dispropartionate numbers of blacks to be worst off than whites in various arenas. That's a problem! We can't look at T.I. and say "He made, so if everyone else from Bankhead Courts does the same thing, they'll be alright. Problem solved". That seems like how people these day look at things.

Think about it. If there were problems with crime, the school system, or any other civic problem in a predominately white metro atlanta community, the people would collectively get together and get it done ASAP. Problems occur in the black community and rarely even get done (at least in an efficient manner). Why? Little to no unity.

The people who care enough to do real work to attack the roots of the problems facing the black community are very few. No leaders. Few role models. As a results, the whole race disproportionately suffers.

[angelzeka]

White flight another word for segregation. My black race is struggling that is true. We need to help one another as humans so we can live together.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN THE GHETTO RAPPER MOVE INTO
YOUR UPPER CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD.

Are you going to run away from that too eventually they will be no where to run. Your ancestors created the problem which stems from slavery. We as a society needs to fix the destruction of the black race it affects everyone.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by angelzeka

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN THE GHETTO RAPPER MOVE INTO YOUR UPPER CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD.

Who's upper class?

My middle class neighborhood has a nice mix of people, but it also has an HOA which is mandatory and whose rules and covenants I expect to be followed.

If the rapper in question lives up to the contract he signed to move into the neighborhood, he's perfectly welcome. Otherwise, he isn't.

Being a good neighbor isn't a function of skin color, at least as far as I'm concerned.

[aries4118]

[quote=rcsteiner;12081558]

Originally Posted by angelzeka

My middle class neighborhood has a nice mix of people, but it also has an HOA which is mandatory and whose rules and covenants I expect to be followed.

I love Stoneybrooke. It is oh-so-fabulous...



Stoneybrook Homeowners - Welcome!

[MisterNY]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

I love Stoneybrooke. It is oh-so-fabulous...



Stoneybrook Homeowners - Welcome!

I just went on the site, and it seems like a nice place. I will PM you with a few questions.

Originally Posted by Brillemeister

I thought it was the "stop snitching" mantra?

The stop snitching mantra is a cover up, ever watched "First 48"? I see more snitching there than on anything else (they snitch, alright)... (just bringing some humor)

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by aries4118

I love Stoneybrooke. It is oh-so-fabulous...

Stoneybrook Homeowners - Welcome!

It's a nice neighborhood. You can get a 2500 sq ft 4BR house on a partially wooded 1/3-1/2 acre lot in a quiet hilly area with very little through traffic and private tennis courts, pool, playground, and party building for $250k-350k, and while the home construction is oldish by some standards (started in 1987), it's still a John Wieland neighborhood. Our home seems to be well-built, anyway.

Of course, it's three miles OTP, which makes it evil.

[MisterNY]

Originally Posted by rcsteiner

It's a nice neighborhood. You can get a 2500 sq ft 4BR house on a partially wooded 1/3-1/2 acre lot in a quiet hilly area with very little through traffic and private tennis courts, pool, playground, and party building for $250k-350k, and while the home construction is oldish by some standards (started in 1987), it's still a John Wieland neighborhood. Our home seems to be well-built, anyway.

Of course, it's three miles OTP, which makes it evil.

How are the surrounding areas? How are the schools? Maybe, I should start a new thread or just send you a DM.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by MisterNY

How are the surrounding areas? How are the schools? Maybe, I should start a new thread or just send you a DM.

Schools are good--

Nickajack Elementary, Griffin Middle, and Campbell High.

[rcsteiner]

Originally Posted by MisterNY

How are the surrounding areas? How are the schools? Maybe, I should start a new thread or just send you a DM.

North is the City of Smyrna boundary, perhaps 100 yards up Civitania Road from the north subdivision entrance, and there are several nice subdivisions between Stoneybrook and the E/W Connector to the north (Vinings Estates, the Manor at Vinings, Lake View at Vinings, the fledgling Woodbridge Crossing development, etc.). The Silver Comet Trail runs parallel with the E/W Connector just on the north side.

South is Veterans Memorial Highway, arguably industrial and not nice, but it's about two miles to the south, and there are both many houses plus a Girl Scout Camp (Camp Timber Ridge (http://www.girlscoutsofgreateratlanta.org/camping_and_outdoor_activities/default.asp?page=ctr - broken link)) immediately to the south of Stoneybrook which act as a buffer. Lots of woods, and the Vinings Springs subdivision to the southeast. I think Civitania Road used to connect with Timber Ridge Road at one time (??), but I wouldn't try to drive it today w/o 4WD.

West on the other side of the ridge are some older rambler-style houses, Nickajack Creek, various subdivisions along Fontaine Road and Nickajack Road, and (eventually) the Concord Covered Bridge District.

No direct access from the east, but Buckner Road is the next road over, and just east of that is Oakdale Road and the River Line historic area.

It's a fairly nice, wooded, and relatively hilly area. We didn't choose it randomly.