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Old 06-18-2020, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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If that is what happened, it is somewhat refreshing to see all the relevant parties get on the same page to make things work they way they should, instead of fighting out some theoretical ideological end. It is almost politics from an age when politics were productive.
That's the problem, the parties weren't on the same page, hence the source of my frustration with Abbott. In the midst of his wanton reopening, he wasn't listening to the actual local officials who were experiencing escalating cases and hospitalizations. If this state has any hope of slowing the progression, people need to come together. I know perfectly well that Abbott was in a bad position - hearing demands from all sides - and I give him props for not being like that governor in GA, but he needs to stop just proceeding along as if nothing is going on.

At the end of the day, I blame the continued spread of covid 19 on people - by not covering their mouths when they cough, failing to wash their hands, refusing to wear masks while at the same time not practicing good hygiene, failing to follow guidelines such as proper distance, and even worse acting like belligerent fools when businesses attempt to keep patrons safe. Abbott allowed businesses such as bars to reopen so that people can finally make a living, and what do people do? Overrun it and act like a pandemic never happened.

This virus is not going away, 100 degrees is not going to burn it into oblivion, it's going to keep going and going until the transmission pattern is altered. If it's already mutating, Houston, we've got to talk.
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Old 06-18-2020, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Well, he can’t spin away the latest spike without stepping on his own johnson, so he had to fold.
(No mean pun intended)
Eh, AZ, GA, and FL seem to be trying to spin it away :/. So, at the end of the day, I give him more points than some.
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Old 06-18-2020, 11:37 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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How do y'all feel about this?

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/ed...f-6425e418d78a

Looks like if people want to send their kids to school or have no choice, then the schools will be open. School districts will have the option of alternative arrangements, which is probably virtual learning.

My youngest daughter, who is otherwise healthy gets every single virus that turns up at the school, including the flu multiple times (with a flu shot). I absolutely do not feel comfortable sending her to school if Covid is continuing as it is. Elementary is the worst when it comes to disease transmission. My soon to be high schooler rarely contracts anything, so her returning (which is what she'd want to do) wouldn't be a cause of concern. I think that serious considerations should be made for elementary school and the districts/Abbott need to have a good plan to address the fact that elementary schools are havens for disease.

and before anyone talks about the constitution of my 9 year old, she is fit and otherwise healthy. FWIW LOL she had mother's milk for the first two years (which proves that BF doesn't necessarily confer better immunity), but she is just prone to whatever virus/disease du jour that turns up. Not unusual for kids her age. She knows now more than ever the importance of handwashing, but in the playground there is no social distancing, and on a good day one can't count on every single kid to wash their hands every single time or cover their mouths when they cough.
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Old 06-21-2020, 08:59 AM
 
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How do y'all feel about this?

https://www.kvue.com/article/news/ed...f-6425e418d78a

Looks like if people want to send their kids to school or have no choice, then the schools will be open. School districts will have the option of alternative arrangements, which is probably virtual learning.

My youngest daughter, who is otherwise healthy gets every single virus that turns up at the school, including the flu multiple times (with a flu shot). I absolutely do not feel comfortable sending her to school if Covid is continuing as it is. Elementary is the worst when it comes to disease transmission. My soon to be high schooler rarely contracts anything, so her returning (which is what she'd want to do) wouldn't be a cause of concern. I think that serious considerations should be made for elementary school and the districts/Abbott need to have a good plan to address the fact that elementary schools are havens for disease.

and before anyone talks about the constitution of my 9 year old, she is fit and otherwise healthy. FWIW LOL she had mother's milk for the first two years (which proves that BF doesn't necessarily confer better immunity), but she is just prone to whatever virus/disease du jour that turns up. Not unusual for kids her age. She knows now more than ever the importance of handwashing, but in the playground there is no social distancing, and on a good day one can't count on every single kid to wash their hands every single time or cover their mouths when they cough.
High school is just as big a germ factory, trust me. The reason older kids don't get sick as often is because every time you get a cold, flu, or most viruses, you become immune to that strain and build some immunity to other strains. The older you get, the more you've been exposed to, so you've built an immunity to a lot more things. The germs are still there, but they just don't make you sick any more. No one has that immunity to COVID-19.
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Old 06-21-2020, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Plus, a lot of high school kids like to have close contact.... very close. Lol
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Old 06-21-2020, 11:52 AM
 
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High school is just as big a germ factory, trust me. The reason older kids don't get sick as often is because every time you get a cold, flu, or most viruses, you become immune to that strain and build some immunity to other strains. The older you get, the more you've been exposed to, so you've built an immunity to a lot more things. The germs are still there, but they just don't make you sick any more. No one has that immunity to COVID-19.
they are finding that isnt necessarily true. Cell mediated immunity probably has a reasonably large proportion of the population immune
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Old 06-21-2020, 04:06 PM
 
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they are finding that isnt necessarily true. Cell mediated immunity probably has a reasonably large proportion of the population immune
True. They may not show symptoms, but they may still be contagious, which is what makes this virus so scary.
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Old 06-21-2020, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, Texas
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Always beware the Cootie!

Last edited by ScoPro; 06-13-2021 at 06:57 AM..
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Old 06-21-2020, 04:40 PM
 
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True. They may not show symptoms, but they may still be contagious, which is what makes this virus so scary.
no there might be a substantial portion that are immune and not contagious.
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Old 06-21-2020, 07:05 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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no there might be a substantial portion that are immune and not contagious.
Maybe, and maybe not. They really aren't sure right now.
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