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It's been mentioned here before that quite a few muscle car owners do suspension upgrades to their cars. I've seen cars like '60s/'70s Camaros, Firebirds and 'Cudas with such upgrades outperforming imports on autocross tracks!
Sorry, but I would never prefer an import (and a wagon at that) over my favorite muscle car (1969 Dodge Coronet R/T 440-Magnum). Where I live, in a valley, about 90% of the streets are straight. There are streets with a lot of turns and curves in the mountains, but I rarely drive there. And when I do, my "no handling" cars can corner at 10-15 mph over the speed limit! Even my '76 Cadillac Limousine can take curves with a "35 mph" speed limit at 45-50 mph.
Sure you can find examples of people spending good money on good suspensions so they can track a muscle car, but 99% of the time, there's no real comparison. It's not even a myth. Take my car for example. It's got aftermarket front and rear sways, aftermarket struts/springs, among other assorted bushings. Take a muscle car that has a similar setup and ill still run circles around it all day.
Sure you can find examples of people spending good money on good suspensions so they can track a muscle car, but 99% of the time, there's no real comparison. It's not even a myth.
And about 90% of the time, most of those people do just ordinary driving. It's a myth that muscle cars could "only does one thing well."
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Take my car for example. It's got aftermarket front and rear sways, aftermarket struts/springs, among other assorted bushings. Take a muscle car that has a similar setup and ill still run circles around it all day.
You wouldn't know that for sure unless both cars were on a road course. But most muscle car owners are not interested in autocross racing. Back in the '60s some street racers would actually remove the anti-sway bar to reduce vehicle weight.
I think it started out as trying to copy the fast and the furious without any skill. Then the market flooded with terrible parts.
Now it's just idiots with no skill and no money trying to act like they have both.
I never really got the appeal of making a pos car look good. I've always left looks for last. Making it run properly with more power, stop better, handle better, THEN make it look good.
These guys just slap parts on haphazardly and lack the knowledge and skill to at least piece together something tasteful.
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How many people would rather drive a Honda than a classic muscle car?
Wait, maybe I shouldn't ask... they may be a lot of ricers here! Are you trying to defend ricer cars, btw?
Ricers? I couldn't care less what people do with their cars.
But a Honda NSX vs. an old 'muscle' car on a nice twisty mountain road? Only one choice I see and it was made in Japan. I don't see the point of a car that goes if it doesn't also stop and turn except at a drag strip.
You questioned how many Hondas could lay down a strip of rubber. Power used spinning the tires is power NOT used accelerating the car so the point would be?
The idea is nothing more than the 60's muscle cars, the new "ricers" or Import performance began as more of a way of competing with the muscle cars, I mean its always more fun to take a smaller displacement engine and open a can of whoop azz on a big block right? so take a 4cyl and turn 12's is pretty impressive, so much so that the manufacturers started making factory versions, IE: Evo, Wrx sti, srt4, focus svt, etc... or high tech versions like the skyline. Its nothing that hasnt been around since the beginning of automobiles, we always want it to be faster. As far as the colors, boldness etc... well each his own, I still choose a 60's muscle car, or a newer forced fed mustang, challenger etc..
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