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Old 05-03-2014, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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if you are driving considerably slower than traffic flow you are a hazard... so they can effectively be used during torrential downpours or hail, or in my case one time when there was such a severe blizzard the visibility was something like 50 feet and everyone on the interstate was going about 30MPH.
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Old 05-03-2014, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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For years I have always though lights should come on when wipers are turned on. It can't be bypassed.


OP might take his own advice and pull off the road until driving conditions are better if simple flashers are so distracting. How many drivers do so here in the not so free state? Not enough to count and if they feel they are a hazard I thank them for the warning.
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Old 05-03-2014, 10:43 PM
 
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For years I have always though lights should come on when wipers are turned on. It can't be bypassed.


OP might take his own advice and pull off the road until driving conditions are better if simple flashers are so distracting. How many drivers do so here in the not so free state? Not enough to count and if they feel they are a hazard I thank them for the warning.
Flasher people and their supporters might be the same folks stopping in the thru lane to let side street drivers cross the highway. Good samaritans, trying to get us all killed.
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Old 05-03-2014, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Tucson for awhile longer
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Another circumstance in which hazard lights are inappropriate is driving in dust storms (a.k.a haboob or sand storm), which are common in the desert Southwest. Generally there are multiple haboobs every summer on Interstate 10, especially between Tucson and Phoenix and they can crop up many places in Metro Phoenix. The Arizona Department of Transportation makes it clear that drivers must use headlights and drive slowly when dust obscures visibility. In the event of serious danger, drivers are told they need to pull off the road and follow these rules:

-Never stop in a travel lane
-Set your emergency brake
-Take your foot off the brake pedal so other drivers won’t follow your tail lights thinking that you’re driving on the road
-Turn off all vehicle lights
-Wait out the storm


Note that the use of hazard lights was not recommended. Further obscuring ourselves in obscurity might seem counter-intuitive, but they have statistics that back up the fact that we're safer that way. Complete details recommended by state officials can be found here:
http://www.deq.co.pima.az.us/educ/pdf/Haboob_7.06.pdf
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Old 05-04-2014, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Sumter, SC
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I'm not putting on my hazzards for your safety. I'm putting them on for my safety. Ever hear of "Defensive Driving?" Putting your hazzards on when visibility falls to a minimum is my attempt to make my car move visible. My taillights aren't enough. I know I'm a good driver and I can avoid others during poor conditions. I'm worried about all the other idiots out there who refuse to slow down during these conditions. If I can give them a few extra feet when they see me, then I have a better chance of not getting hit by an idiot.
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Old 05-04-2014, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Limbo
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So then it makes sense to have their hazards on, because by putting their hazards on they've created a hazard, lol
But if you didn't put your hazards on in the first place, you wouldn't be a hazard, thereby not needing the hazard lights.
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Old 05-04-2014, 07:21 AM
 
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The only times i'll turn on the flashers is if i'm on an interstate highway and condition's are such that i'm having to slow way below the speed limit for something like an accident, fog bank, torrential rain with much standing water .a herd of deer in the road etc.. the flashers are intended to make me more visible and to warn those behind me theres a problem that i'm slowing down for, If some have an issue with my using emergency flashers then too bad for them, if viewing a car up ahead with flashers on somehow confuses you maybe you need to re-evaluate your driving competence..
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Old 05-04-2014, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Southern NJ - USA
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Good Lord...people actually drive through sandstorms in AZ? That's madness. Can't imagine what this would do to the paint finish on your car!

I don't recall seeing any sort of transit system at all when I was in Scottsdale, AZ in 2012, so I guess people just have to tough it out if one occurs on a workday. I'd keep a horse, a good set of eye goggles, and protective clothing around for this scenario! Giddy-up!! LOL!

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Old 05-04-2014, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Re : From the Ocala Star ,

The Florida Drivers Handbook states that a driver should never engage emergency flashers while the vehicle is moving.

The manual states in section 5.35.1 that "if the fog or smoke becomes so thick that you cannot see well enough to keep driving, pull all the way off the pavement and stop. Turn on your emergency flashers."

On the other hand, the Florida Commercial Drivers License Handbook which by federal law must mirror national CDL regulations states that a driver should immediately engage emergency flashers when entering fog and smoke to give vehicles approaching from behind "a quicker opportunity to notice your vehicle."

The federal CDL handbook, which was adopted as the Florida CDL Handbook per federal law, also states that these truck drivers should never "stop along the side of the road, unless absolutely necessary."
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Old 05-04-2014, 08:59 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Flasher people and their supporters might be the same folks stopping in the thru lane to let side street drivers cross the highway. Good samaritans, trying to get us all killed.
This "flasher person" retired from driving an 18 wheeler with a backside that looks like a white barn door. The last 5 years I drove 750,000 miles. No accidents; no tickets.

I used flashers often. Probably saved some people by doing so, too. My backside is one of the first things to disappear in the mist, even with my tail lights on.
Many people go too fast in the rain. Maybe they are young; maybe they are dumb. Doesn't matter much. I don't want them running into the back of my trailer so I use the flashers.

Mr Maryland acts as if some harm was done by someone using flashers. Nonsense. Use them when you feel the need. You might save yourself, or you might save someone else.
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