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Old 05-02-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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We have seen it for the past few years: Ford, Chrysler, GM all dropping the majority of their sedans in favor of crossovers because they cant compete or not selling as much as they want. Which leads to the question, if they cant build a sedan to compete with the foreign automakers, why would you even want to buy their Crossover vehicles, when they are pretty much based of the sedan platforms too? Wont that same issue of being unable to compete just apply to them as well, just at a much higher price?
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Old 05-02-2019, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Frisco, TX
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I thought the same thing. Right around the time when Ford announced it was cutting sedans, they realeased the EcoSport, and I thought "seriously? This thing's terrible!" I think they’re slowing turning a new leaf with the new Explorer and Escape and are on the right track.
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Old 05-02-2019, 10:21 AM
 
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I thought the same thing. Right around the time when Ford announced it was cutting sedans, they realeased the EcoSport, and I thought "seriously? This thing's terrible!" I think they’re slowing turning a new leaf with the new Explorer and Escape and are on the right track.
Agreed. Im like they should have made a new Taurus on RWD and keep it around $30K starting to compete with the Charger/300, put the new Escape powertrain options in the Fusion, and kept the Focus with these new power trains and not even bother with the EcoSport.
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Old 05-02-2019, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Aurora Denveralis
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Makers sell what they can make people buy. The trend at present is that if you put chunky fenders on a sedan, people buy it. Case closed.
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Old 05-02-2019, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, AK
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Sedan sales are trending downward, so why waste resources on a broad spectrum of vehicles, many of which are uncompetitive and in decline? Focus on what consumers want (pickups and SUVs/CUVs) and put all your money into developing what sells. And let the competition fight over an ever shrinking market.
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Old 05-02-2019, 10:47 AM
 
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Sedan sales are trending downward, so why waste resources on a broad spectrum of vehicles, many of which are uncompetitive and in decline? Focus on what consumers want (pickups and SUVs/CUVs) and put all your money into developing what sells. And let the competition fight over an ever shrinking market.
What im saying is, if Ford, GM , and Chrysler cant make a competitive sedan to compete with an Altima, Camry, Accord, Sonata, Optima, VW sedans, why would I trust their engineering to even make a reliable or competitive SUV, when they cant even do a small, midsize or fullsize sedans with an effort now.


Most people I know out of college or their first car, are not looking for a SUV or station wagon. The Chevy dealer is big and the Cruze was their best seller over the pickups. Guess just more business for the import brands.


Even the crossovers and SUV's, when you put features on it that you would actually want to live with for the next 7-10yrs, the starting price shoots up in a hurry and you are quickly up to 30-40 or even 50K.
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Old 05-02-2019, 10:56 AM
 
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Agreed. Im like they should have made a new Taurus on RWD and keep it around $30K starting to compete with the Charger/300, put the new Escape powertrain options in the Fusion, and kept the Focus with these new power trains and not even bother with the EcoSport.
The Taurus isnt selling now because people arent really buying sedans.
Theres no way they would make the Taurus RWD (which is trending in decline) just so that it doesnt sell just like the 300. The 300 will be discontinued. The Charger would be discontinued if it didnt sell so many 8cyl models.
Taurus already turned into a non good looking sedan. Buick sedans arent selling well at all.

If domestics focus only on the SUV/CUVs and drop the sedans the quality has to get better somewhat since they wont be spread so thin.

But even if YOU dont buy the domestic SUV, other people will still buy it. Many americans buy cars based on how they feel when they drive it, after all the other factors are determined. Some people will be more comfortable in domestics, some in imports.
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Old 05-02-2019, 11:24 AM
 
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We have seen it for the past few years: Ford, Chrysler, GM all dropping the majority of their sedans in favor of crossovers because they cant compete or not selling as much as they want. Which leads to the question, if they cant build a sedan to compete with the foreign automakers, why would you even want to buy their Crossover vehicles, when they are pretty much based of the sedan platforms too? Wont that same issue of being unable to compete just apply to them as well, just at a much higher price?
Keep in mind that the the Accords, Camrys, Altimas of the world are dropping in sales as well. They too are relying on CUV's more and more for sales. Unfortunately, they don't have good selling full size trucks to generate profit as well.

Further, the CUV's that are outselling cars are based on the same platforms and the cars we are losing her are continuing on in other markets. Most could be adapted quickly for the NA market should it be needed. But CUV's are also slowing taking over foreign markets so.....
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Old 05-02-2019, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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American Full size pickups are selling and the Japanese nor the Europeans can’t compete with the big 3 when it comes to the full size pickups.
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Old 05-02-2019, 11:52 AM
 
Location: New York City
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We have seen it for the past few years: Ford, Chrysler, GM all dropping the majority of their sedans in favor of crossovers because they cant compete or not selling as much as they want. Which leads to the question, if they cant build a sedan to compete with the foreign automakers, why would you even want to buy their Crossover vehicles, when they are pretty much based of the sedan platforms too? Wont that same issue of being unable to compete just apply to them as well, just at a much higher price?
That logic makes no sense. Why would people stop buying domestic SUVs because they don't sell sedans??

People want SUVs, that's why they buy SUVs. They want them so much that makers are not selling enough sedans and so naturally the domestics have stopped making them. Who cares what platform they are built on, the only thing that matters is the extra space inside and height / horsepower
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