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View Poll Results: Which car company will go bankrupt (or bailed out) next?
GM 1 2.56%
Ford 2 5.13%
Stellantis 7 17.95%
Tesla 12 30.77%
Toyota 0 0%
Honda 0 0%
Subaru 0 0%
Mazda 1 2.56%
Hyundai / Kia 1 2.56%
VW 0 0%
Daimler / Mercedes 0 0%
BMW 1 2.56%
Volvo / Geely 1 2.56%
Jaguar / Land Rover / Tata Motors 3 7.69%
SAIC 0 0%
BYD 0 0%
Nio 1 2.56%
XPeng 1 2.56%
Rivian 0 0%
Lucid 3 7.69%
Aston Martin 0 0%
Nikola Motors 5 12.82%
Voters: 39. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-27-2021, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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That could explain their demise; everyone else in the world recognized Jeep as a cash cow. How do you think he missed that? Or did you miss something?
Omg all these automotive experts are killing me on here.
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Old 03-27-2021, 05:32 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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When FIAT bought Chrysler, the CEO stated that the ONLY part worth buying was the RAM truck division.

That said, I don't think if I would buy a FIAT truck. My last two trucks were RAM's by the way.


But hey, back on topic. GM I have lost count HOW MANY TIMES the US government has bailed them out!!! Horrible vehicles, horrible management that is still around due to the US taxpayer.
GM has only been bailed out one time by the government and that was in 2008, boy you think you’re an automotive expert but can’t even get your facts straight about GM And btw the automotive bailout saved 1.5 million jobs so put that into prospective. And btw what about the big banks bailout.

Looking just at the big Wall Street banks, we count $135 billion: Citigroup ($45 billion), Bank of America ($45 billion), JP Morgan Chase ($25 billion), Goldman Sachs ($10 billion) and Morgan Stanley ($10 billion).

Federal Reserve made loans to financial firms totaling anywhere from $7.7 trillion to $29 trillion during the crisis.

But all i here constantly is the automakers bailout that’s all people want to remember they forgot that Wall Street created the Great Recession of 2008 not the automakers fault it’s because of the banks bad mortgages that they created, no one was buying nothing. You do remember the housing crisis right.

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Old 03-27-2021, 08:11 AM
 
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I can’t see a possible future for electric long haul semis. A 500 mile range that requires a new energy intensive “mega charging “ network when frequent fast charging and 100% battery top off is known to degrade battery life, not to mention the faster you charge a battery, the more energy is wasted in the charging process. Batteries are just not scaleable.
Long haul drivers can do 600-650 miles in the allowable 11 hour shift and then taking a 10 hour break. The charging over 10 hours won't be "fast." Tandem teams will not be able to operate with an electric at this time.

Right now, the range on electric trucks seems to fit the LTL and box truck market where the vehicles return to a terminal where they can be recharged overnight.
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Old 03-27-2021, 08:26 AM
 
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And it sure looks like the Chrysler marque is going to be mini-van-only. <Yawn.>

Minivans have a place though. There is a market for it and it is very functional.


It's not like pickup trucks aren't boring either.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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Minivans have a place though. There is a market for it and it is very functional.


It's not like pickup trucks aren't boring either.
Who knows what else Stellantis has planed for Chrysler, there are many platforms that can have the Chrysler name on them not just a minivan. Or they can develop a whole new vehicle with the Chrysler name don’t forget Stellantis is now the 4th largest automaker in the world now. They are not some small startup company With a global workforce of over 400,000, Stellantis ranks behind Volkswagen, Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi, and Toyota, and ahead of General Motors, Hyundai, and Ford.
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Old 03-27-2021, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Lee County, NC
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GM I have lost count HOW MANY TIMES the US government has bailed them out!!!
That would be once.
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Old 03-27-2021, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit Michigan
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That would be once.
Correct.
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Old 03-27-2021, 04:53 PM
 
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That would be once.
Give him a break; his counting ability is quite limited.
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Old 03-28-2021, 08:34 AM
 
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I can’t wrap my head around the obsession with the end of Chrysler. It has 1/3rd of the minivan market to itself. It’s doing fine.
Just rebadge the Pacifica as a Dodge or a Ram, and then eliminate the Chrysler marque. No one would care.
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